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Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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February 5 | 1 | |
February 8 | 1 | |
February 11 | 1 | |
February 12 | 2 | |
February 13 | 1 | |
February 15 | 1 | |
February 16 | 1 | |
February 19 | 1 | |
February 20 | 1 | |
February 21 | 2 | |
February 22 | 1 | |
February 23 | 1 | |
February 25 | 3 | |
February 28 | 1 | |
March 2 | 1 | |
March 7 | 2 | |
March 8 | 1 | 1 |
March 9 | 7 | 5 |
March 10 | 6 | 5 |
March 11 | 1 | 1 |
March 12 | 6 | 4 |
March 13 | 6 | 6 |
March 14 | 2 | 2 |
March 15 | 3 | 2 |
March 16 | 8 | 4 |
March 17 | 3 | 2 |
March 18 | 4 | 4 |
March 19 | 11 | 10 |
March 20 | 4 | 4 |
March 21 | 11 | 9 |
March 22 | 9 | 9 |
March 23 | 10 | 7 |
March 24 | 23 | 15 |
March 25 | 10 | 7 |
March 26 | 10 | 8 |
March 27 | 9 | 7 |
March 28 | 10 | 4 |
March 29 | 10 | 8 |
March 30 | 9 | 6 |
March 31 | 9 | 3 |
April 1 | 5 | |
April 2 | 6 | |
April 3 | 3 | |
April 4 | 3 | |
April 5 | 5 | |
April 6 | ||
Total | 225 | 133 |
Last updated 05:53, 6 April 2025 UTC Current time is 07:03, 6 April 2025 UTC [refresh] |
Instructions for nominators
[edit]If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.
Frequently asked questions
[edit]How do I write an interesting hook?
Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.
When will my nomination be reviewed?
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If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.
Instructions for reviewers
[edit]Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.
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Advanced procedures
[edit]How to promote an accepted hook
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How to remove a rejected hook
[edit]- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
[edit]- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name
[edit]- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations
[edit]Older nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on February 5
[edit]2023 Selma tornado
- ... that Selma, Alabama, known for the 1965 Civil Rights marches that were attended by Martin Luther King Jr., was heavily damaged by an EF2 tornado just eight days before Martin Luther King Jr. Day?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shirley A. Pomponi
- Comment: Will do QPQ tomorrow, as it's getting relatively late over here. Feel free to reword hook. I wass initially going to go with "...that a historic tornado caused historic damage in a historic town?" but sadly couldn't find refs to back up the "historic tornado" part.
EF5 00:44, 6 February 2025 (UTC).
Eight days? That's out of the window of a week and I don't see any connection beyond that in the source, beyond it happening "ahead of" the holiday. Can you find any other sources further connecting these events? Departure– (talk) 00:52, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Not sure what you mean; Selma was a prominent civil rights town that MLK frequented. But alas, sure: An MLK Day Reflection In The Aftermath Of Selma’s EF2 Tornado, Residents in Selma, Ala., commemorate MLK day while recovering from tornadoes and Tornadoes rattle historic civil rights community of Selma, Alabama. Take your pick. :) EF5 00:56, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Alright, #1 is from a Forbes contributor (generally unreliable) and #3 doesn't connect much, but I do think that you can get a good hook from #2:
This goes over the prose limit for DYK, but if you approve of a hook in the same manner as this, we can get this condensed. Departure– (talk) 01:12, 6 February 2025 (UTC)...that a 2023 tornado in Selma, Alabama that struck days before Martin Luther King day was described as bringing together the historically racially divided community that had been at the heart of the Civil Rights movement?
- Ooh, that sounds great. EF5 01:15, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Are you still reviewing? EF5 17:47, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Yes, but I'm waiting for you to finish your QPQ. Finish that up and I'll go on with my review. Departure– (talk) 17:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Finished. EF5 17:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Other than that, the article is new enough, QPQ now done, long enough and seems neutral and well-sourced. The fact just needs to be put in the article. If you're using the one I suggested, it's the PBS source that I took it from. I can condense it down to:
... that Selma, a racially divided community and the origin of the Civil Rights era marches to Montgomery, was described as being brought together by a 2023 tornado that stuck days before MLK day?
- Barring any objection, we can go with this. Departure– (talk) 18:11, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Added. :) EF5 18:25, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Well, by adding it to the article, I didn't exactly mean copy and pasting the hook into there. It still needs attribution to who said it, and it should be cleaned up a bit in general. Departure– (talk) 18:29, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think I've fixed it, but please tell me if I'm wrong. EF5 18:32, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Seems fine, but forgive me for not checking before, but there were three marches. It's marches, plural. Change it there and then we'll be good to go. Departure– (talk) 18:36, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed. EF5 18:37, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Here's your checkmark:
good to go, on the hook
... that Selma, a racially divided community and the origin of the Civil Rights era marches to Montgomery, was described as being brought together by a 2023 tornado that stuck days before MLK day?
@EF5 and Departure–: In the article "brought together" is in quotes, but I don't see that phrase in the cited article. Also, how is the article describing the tornado as bringing the town together? Rjjiii (talk) 00:59, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
- Can I get a second opinion on whether the original hook I suggested looks fine? The approved one is also creating issues at the GAN; it would have been much easier if the original was approved; the Forbes source is from a person with a PhD in meteorology. EF5 12:47, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging @Departure–:. EF5 12:55, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Can I get a second opinion on whether the original hook I suggested looks fine? The approved one is also creating issues at the GAN; it would have been much easier if the original was approved; the Forbes source is from a person with a PhD in meteorology. EF5 12:47, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Here's your checkmark:
- Fixed. EF5 18:37, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Seems fine, but forgive me for not checking before, but there were three marches. It's marches, plural. Change it there and then we'll be good to go. Departure– (talk) 18:36, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think I've fixed it, but please tell me if I'm wrong. EF5 18:32, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Well, by adding it to the article, I didn't exactly mean copy and pasting the hook into there. It still needs attribution to who said it, and it should be cleaned up a bit in general. Departure– (talk) 18:29, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Added. :) EF5 18:25, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Finished. EF5 17:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Yes, but I'm waiting for you to finish your QPQ. Finish that up and I'll go on with my review. Departure– (talk) 17:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Are you still reviewing? EF5 17:47, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Ooh, that sounds great. EF5 01:15, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Alright, #1 is from a Forbes contributor (generally unreliable) and #3 doesn't connect much, but I do think that you can get a good hook from #2:
- @Departure–: Not sure what you mean; Selma was a prominent civil rights town that MLK frequented. But alas, sure: An MLK Day Reflection In The Aftermath Of Selma’s EF2 Tornado, Residents in Selma, Ala., commemorate MLK day while recovering from tornadoes and Tornadoes rattle historic civil rights community of Selma, Alabama. Take your pick. :) EF5 00:56, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- (that's a whole lot of indents, but) Yeah, I do think the Forbes source is accessible. Per RSP,
Editors show consensus for treating Forbes.com contributor articles as self-published sources, unless the article was written by a subject-matter expert
, which we have now proven he is. I think the first and original hook is factual but a bit lacking in the DYKINT elements, whereas the second one is a bit long-winded and would need more elaboration in the article than we've gotten so far. Departure– (talk) 16:02, 11 March 2025 (UTC)- @Rjjiii: is this resolved? Just passed GA. EF5 21:35, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Where is "brought together" in the cited source? Rjjiii (talk) 02:15, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Rjjiii, I was asking if the original hook proposed (the MLK one) is good-to-go. Other hooks proposed are creating issues and that one's the most solid. EF5 19:59, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- At 192 characters, that hook is on the long side and very close to the 200-character limit. Could that be shortened? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:19, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
@Narutoolovehinata5:"... that Selma, Alabama, known for the Civil Rights marches that were attended by Martin Luther King Jr., was damaged by a tornado just eight days before MLK Day?" How's that look? EF5 13:22, 29 March 2025 (UTC)- Repinging @Narutolovehinata5: since I screwed up the last one. EF5 13:23, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's a lot shorter but still a bit too wordy for my tastes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:33, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- This is one of those hooks where removing any more info (I personally think it's fine as being well below the limit) would compromise interestingness and the ability to clearly understand the hook. You could remove the "Civil Rights" and "just", but other than that it's as short as I can get it. EF5 13:37, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- We can probably go with that, perhaps with some kind of piped link for "marches". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:46, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- This is one of those hooks where removing any more info (I personally think it's fine as being well below the limit) would compromise interestingness and the ability to clearly understand the hook. You could remove the "Civil Rights" and "just", but other than that it's as short as I can get it. EF5 13:37, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's a lot shorter but still a bit too wordy for my tastes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:33, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Repinging @Narutolovehinata5: since I screwed up the last one. EF5 13:23, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- At 192 characters, that hook is on the long side and very close to the 200-character limit. Could that be shortened? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:19, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Rjjiii, I was asking if the original hook proposed (the MLK one) is good-to-go. Other hooks proposed are creating issues and that one's the most solid. EF5 19:59, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5: Where is "brought together" in the cited source? Rjjiii (talk) 02:15, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: is this resolved? Just passed GA. EF5 21:35, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure– and EF5: The nomination times out tomorrow, is this good to go or are there still other issues (apart from the hook)? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:40, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Almost to the airport back home (it’s a connection flight, though) so assuming my flight isn’t delayed a horrendous amount like last time (8 hours!?) I can probably get to any comments today, and maybe even using mobile if I want to suffer enough. :) EF5 09:50, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @EF5 and Narutolovehinata5: Hopefully the flight goes smoothly. Following up from above ↑ the hook fact still seems to have wrong source cited in the article. Rjjiii (talk) 13:43, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Almost to the airport back home (it’s a connection flight, though) so assuming my flight isn’t delayed a horrendous amount like last time (8 hours!?) I can probably get to any comments today, and maybe even using mobile if I want to suffer enough. :) EF5 09:50, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 8
[edit]Ich komme
- ... that Erika Vikman made "a song structured like an orgasm"?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: for April Fools' Day. is "Erika Vikman is coming" with "coming" linking to the "Ich komme" page good enough?
Blueberrypastry (talk) 14:16, 17 February 2025 (UTC).
Belatedly transcluding to T:TDYK per tipoff at User talk:Shubinator. Full review needed (possibly way too late to request that this run on the day of Eurovision, but if you don't buy a ticket and all that...).--Launchballer 04:41, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
@Blueberrypastry: The donkey work for this article was done by @Fixer88: with one sentence added by @ImStevan: (which I just copyedited), so I have updated the credit, and this is long enough and (just!) new enough. Earwig picks up content from [1] but I think they copied us and I see no other reason why this might deserve a maintenance template. As I just copyedited the hook sentence, I'm going to ask for a second opinion as to whether this checks out and I also suggest ALT1: ... that the 69th edition of the Eurovision Song Contest features at least two tracks about ejaculating including "Ich komme"?--Launchballer 13:15, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Checks out (Milkshake Man and Ich komme) — IмSтevan talk 13:31, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 11
[edit]The Ethereal Rock
... that according to Judith T. Zeitlin, the "most obvious inspiration" for Pu Songling's short story about a man's friendship with a rock was Mi Fu, "whose obsession with rocks had become proverbial"?
KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 14:54, 11 February 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: The hook needs to be cited, anything else seems fine. Munfarid1 (talk) 11:06, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Munfarid1: ummm, it is cited?? See the last line of "Analysis". KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 11:30, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- You have to mention the source on this nomination after the hook. I have just added the corresponding lines you seem to have dropped from the template. - Just add the source here, and I can give it the green light. Munfarid1 (talk) 12:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, it's not a requirement y'know (as opposed to whether or not the hook fact is cited inline in the article proper), see for instance this thread, but I have just done so anyway. Thanks KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 12:40, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- You have to mention the source on this nomination after the hook. I have just added the corresponding lines you seem to have dropped from the template. - Just add the source here, and I can give it the green light. Munfarid1 (talk) 12:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
The above hook has been pulled per WT:DYK#The Ethereal Rock as being too long and possibly not interesting to a broad audience. A new hook wording may be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:09, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- I was away and only just saw this but, with respect, I find part of your objection to the SL93's first suggested alt ("... that the inspiration for the short story "The Ethereal Rock", about a man's friendship with a rock, was the painter Mi Fu?") strange ("Not much of an improvement since it's reliant on knowing who Mi Fu is.") since countless DYK hooks have involved some kind of reference to somebody or something (apart from the nominated article's subject) that a "non-specialist" audience would be unfamiliar with. Noting your point about wordiness, however, I propose thjis:
- ALT1: "... that a Chinese short story about a man's friendship with a rock may have been inspired by the painter Mi Fu, who was reportedly obsessed with rocks?" Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 11:22, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm okay with that wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:48, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer needed to check ALT1 (which I've numbered and made more visible). Thanks. Struck original hook since nom was pulled because of it. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:23, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 12
[edit]St. George Utah Temple
- ... that a cannon used by Napoleon in his Russian Campaign (pictured) was later repurposed as a pile driver to create the foundation of the St. George Utah Temple?
"The St. George Temple, completed in 1877, was a study in pioneer ingenuity...
An old cannon, one that was taken by Napoleon for his siege of Moscow, and which had found its way out west, was used as a piledriver... and then dropped upon the rock fill to solidify it into a strong base(foundation)"- ALT1: ... that Brigham Young altered the architecture of the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) from the afterlife?

*Source: https://www.deseret.com/2003/7/11/19734272/temple-burns-151-but-not-angel/ "In the case of the St. George Temple, the fire became a local legend. Brigham Young had never liked the short, squat original temple steeple, and when the fire occurred — after his death — officials sighed and concluded that President Young was directing temple architecture from the afterlife. The new, taller steeple was built according to his stated desire."
- ALT2: ... that the St. George Utah Temple's baptismal font, modeled after a live ox and supported by twelve iron-cast oxen, was transported by oxen? (pictured)

- Reviewed: N/A
- Comment: I put the hooks in order of those I thought would be most intriguing for the recent GA grade for the St. George Utah Temple, a temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Since I felt the first was strongest, I put that as the default photo. If we want to make the hook for #1 more of a surprise, I would say instead: "The cannon used" so it is more of a surprise.
Each hook I've listed would go best with a different photo. I couldn't find any rules against having a possibility of different images, so I added links to Wikimedia commons for clarity.
Hook 1 image: The one shown (St. George Temple Visitors Center Cannon.jpg)
Hook 2 image (A front view of the building): St. George Utah Temple 2023-10-02.jpg Caption: The St. George Utah Temple
Hook 3 image: Ox Team that Hauled the Font to St. George Temple, 1874.png Caption: Oxen that hauled the baptismal font
For those checking the validity of the source, Deseret News is considered generally reliable as a source, per the Latter Day Saint Wiki project movement.[1]
I went back through this nomination template after the date it was nominated several times and added a few things to make the nomination more clear. March 1st I added some links to images to clarify things. However, the nomination itself was done within 7 days per the DYK rules, which is shown in the edit history of this template. This is my second DYK, so I'm not perfectly familiar with the rules, but I wanted to make things clearer while also showing that I am complying with the time rule.
Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 02:43, 16 February 2025 (UTC).
- Will take shortly.--Launchballer 15:11, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
@Itsetsyoufree32: Long enough, new enough. No QPQ necessary. You're going to need to add any images to this nomination for me to be able to consider them; I can tell you that ALT0 would require an end-of-sentence citation. However, there is a fair amount of close paraphrasing in the article and that would need remedying before primetime.--Launchballer 17:16, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Hi, thanks for reviewing my DYK nomination for the St. George Utah Temple.
- As far as it goes with the close paraphrasing- the user that did the GA said there was no close paraphrasing,[2] but he mentioned that Earwig picked up to 35.5% similarities, but that it was mostly proper nouns. I looked at the report, and I found a few phrases that were very close, but I rephrased those sentences. Otherwise it is mostly just things like names of the organization (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, titles of leaders (president of the Quorum of the twelve apostles), etc. Do you see specific spots where there are close paraphrasing sections that I can address- or were you specifically referring to something else besides Earwig?
- The only phrase I wasn’t sure I could replace was "Two days and two nights." I could say 48 hours, but since that isn’t verified (it could be 47 hours, 49, etc), then it would amount to original research. I’m curious about your opinion of that.
- I did some more research on the origins of the cannon- there are various reports that the cannon came from different places, so I may need to add more information and citations to the article. I’ll continue to do some research on that and ping you (hopefully within a few days). For now, I added that citation to the relevant part of the article. I’ll add the images here as well.
- Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 22:53, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- Whatever close paraphrasing I found before I now can't, so nice one. Looking at the hooks/images in more detail, I could approve ALT0 and ALT2, but the oxen image is of technically poor quality (I wouldn't have known they were oxen if you hadn't told me) and the cannon probably shouldn't be obstructed. The source for ALT1 attributes officials, so the hook should as well.--Launchballer 12:22, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Great—the paraphrasing issue is resolved, and I've upgraded to a better-quality oxen image. Let me know your thoughts.
- Whatever close paraphrasing I found before I now can't, so nice one. Looking at the hooks/images in more detail, I could approve ALT0 and ALT2, but the oxen image is of technically poor quality (I wouldn't have known they were oxen if you hadn't told me) and the cannon probably shouldn't be obstructed. The source for ALT1 attributes officials, so the hook should as well.--Launchballer 12:22, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding the cannon photo, I've looked into clearer images, but they’re extremely scarce—especially now that the cannon isn't publicly displayed since the recent renovation. Wikipedia’s manual of style advises using the best available image to illustrate the subject clearly, even if it's imperfect. Although the bottom of the cannon is partly obscured, the current photo clearly shows that it's a cannon and effectively illustrates the subject. Cropping can help remove distractions, but the bottom part would still remain hidden.
- I'll still reach out for a better shot, but realistically, this may be the best available image within our nomination timeframe. Alternatively, we could default to the temple’s front photo—but the cannon image uniquely captures readers’ interest. Let me know your preference.
- Also, what do you think of this refined hook for ALT1?
- ALT3: ... that Brigham Young altered the architecture of the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) from the afterlife, according to Latter-day Saint officials?
- Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 17:07, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I was thinking very roughly in terms of ALT4: ... that Mormon officials interpreted architectural tweaks to St. George Utah Temple (pictured) as posthumous instructions from a former president of the church?--Launchballer 13:10, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I like your wording of this sentence better, it seems to flow well and make sense.
- As for the word Mormon, generally members of the Church oppose the use of the word Mormon in reference to it’s membership or theology.
- The manual of style says that “It is usually best to follow the predominant form found in the sources used for a particular Wikipedia article.” It also mentions using the full name of the Church in first reference, but since hooks are meant to be under 150 characters that may prove difficult. Since the sourcing we’re using refers to members as “Latter-day Saints”, and even has an article on the side that reads “Latter-day Saint Leaders” in a title, that would be preferred. Here is the improved hook:
- ALT4a: ... that Latter-day Saint officials interpreted architectural tweaks to the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) as posthumous instructions from a former president of the church?
- “Church officials” would also work to keep it snappier.
- Once we’ve gotten this hook buttoned up, are there any other steps we need to do to get this nomination approved?
- Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 14:47, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Yes, I need another reviewer for the fact that Brigham Young was "president of the church".--Launchballer 14:52, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- No problem—another reviewer stepping in is fine with me. We can easily adjust the hook by replacing "president of the church" with "Brigham Young," as originally suggested:
- ALT4b: ... that Latter-day Saint officials interpreted architectural tweaks to the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) as posthumous instructions from Brigham Young?
- If you prefer, I can also add more citations to this nomination clarifying Young’s role as church president during the temple’s construction.
- Thank you again, Launchballer, for your quick reply and all your help with DYK!
- Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 15:28, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think that would pass WP:DYKINT as it would require knowledge of who Brigham Young is.--Launchballer 05:47, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate you taking the time to reply and give me feedback so far. I'd like to clarify a few points directly, as some questions I've asked haven't yet been addressed.
- I suggest we revert to your earlier recommendation of using 'president of the Church' for this article. However, I still firmly believe the original hook mentioning Brigham Young is appropriate, particularly since the current DYK on Wikipedia's main page references individuals such as Zhou Enlai, Vince McMahon, and Eskimo Joe—figures not universally known.[3] Their lesser-known status didn't disqualify them; in fact, it made their hooks intriguing, as users can easily click or hover for context.
- According to the guidelines you shared, hooks must be intriguing and understandable without special knowledge or interest. Referring to "Brigham Young" or, more simply, the "president of the Church," clearly meets these guidelines. The idea of a religious organization having a president isn't obscure or controversial and shouldn't confuse general readers.
- Additionally, the DYK rules simply require reliable sourcing for the claim made in the hook. Here are two clear citations confirming that Brigham Young was president of the Church during the temple's construction:
- I don't think that would pass WP:DYKINT as it would require knowledge of who Brigham Young is.--Launchballer 05:47, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- I was thinking very roughly in terms of ALT4: ... that Mormon officials interpreted architectural tweaks to St. George Utah Temple (pictured) as posthumous instructions from a former president of the church?--Launchballer 13:10, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 17:07, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- “President Young took a personal interest in the temple construction and basically moved to St. George to supervise construction.”[4]
- “President Brigham Young lived in this home in St. George, Utah… While living here, he continued his regular work of administering to the Church, including overseeing the construction of the St. George Temple.”[5]
- Given this clarification, can you please confirm:
- - Is there a specific reason we're unable to use either "Brigham Young" or "president of the Church" in the hook?
- - How close is this DYK nomination to receiving a full review?
- Thanks again—I look forward to resolving these questions soon. Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 22:21, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
The relevant guideline is WP:DYKINT, specifically the part about how hooks must be written in such a way that they must not be reliant on specialist or niche information. That is, even if a hook mentions an unfamiliar name, the hook must be phrased in such a way that knowing who the person is, is not necessarily central to the hook's interestingness. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming you are a Latter-day Saint. If this is the case, then I may have to note that LDS figures are not as well-known to the general public as Pope Francis is, for example. Indeed, may not even know who Joseph Smith is, or if they do, it's only a passing knowledge (possibly through the Book of Mormon musical or through South Park). It's even more so with Brigham Young, who I imagine may not be well-known among many non-Mormons apart from being the namesake of Brigham Young University.
In the case of ALT4b, I'm actually fine with mentioning Young by name, I'm just explaining what the argument against mentioning him is. With that said, I don't think ALT4b works because it begs the question of "Who is Brigham Young, and why should I care?" At the very least, some kind of identifier is needed, which I get may go against WP:DYKTRIM, but in some cases it's necessary to make the hook more understandable. We could also go with ALT4 instead as a compromise: I understand Nelson doesn't like the word "Mormon" all that much, but even among Mormons themselves the reaction to the move away from the term is mixed, and in any case "Mormon" is still the familiar term among the general public rather than Latter-day Saint. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:10, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Those are good points about Brigham Young, thank you for explaining that more fully. It sounds like explaining it would be a lot of extra work and would be really inconvenient to add more information about using Brigham Young’s name. I think it would work just fine without it, like using “president of the church” or “former leader”, as that is shorter and shouldn’t be confusing, as I mentioned earlier. Here’s a few more ideas on ways that we could reformat that would make it work:
- ALT4C... that architectural changes to the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) were viewed by Church officials as posthumous instructions from a former leader?
- ALT4D…that a lightning strike was seen by Church officials as beyond the grave architecture changes from a former leader for the St. George Utah Temple? (pictured)
- As an aside about using the word Mormon- In my experience, real people I've met who called Latter-day Saints “Mormons” often had no idea what members of the Church actually believe. The correct name of the Church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (showing that members actually believe in Jesus Christ as their Savior). Despite being more well known, using “Mormon” to refer to members promotes misinformation and disinformation- as it is really not the actual name of the Church (and even historically, the origin and use of the word “Mormon” to describe members was used as an epithet).
- In addition, the Latter-day Saint Wiki, as I mentioned earlier in this discussion, states that while the word Mormon can be used, it is better to use the sources that are primarily written for the article (which use the term Latter-day Saint, not LDS or Mormon, etc). The other options I’ve put forward should avoid the much lengthier “Latter-day Saint leaders”, so I feel these hooks should work as a better compromise for every party here, while also meeting the character limit. If you want to remove “Church” from the statement, I think it still works, since it mentions a former leader, it could be assumed to mean officials from the Church.
- I am a member. With that, I hope is that in good faith I will not be unfairly accused of not being neutral. Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 18:05, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- The issue I have with ALT4c/ALT4d is that "Church" becomes too generic. Like, what specific denomination? We can go with "LDS church" in the hook while linking to the article on the church. Something like "LDS church". The hooks themselves are interesting even to those unfamiliar with the denomination, so at least that particular concern is resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:25, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's great these hooks are interesting, and are one step closer to being ready to go. What you said makes sense, I could see how just using “Church” being unclear to a certain denomination is confusing. From what was said, while there are less problems with using LDS over Mormon, the Church’s stance on using the abbreviated “LDS” in reference to their members has been asked not to be used as much as “Mormon”, which comes from a released Style Guide.
- The issue I have with ALT4c/ALT4d is that "Church" becomes too generic. Like, what specific denomination? We can go with "LDS church" in the hook while linking to the article on the church. Something like "LDS church". The hooks themselves are interesting even to those unfamiliar with the denomination, so at least that particular concern is resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:25, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- My thought on why is that the term “LDS Church” is not clear on what the Church believes, as mentioned before. Using the name Latter-day Saints is encouraged, because it connects being a Latter-day Saint as being a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, clarifying a belief in Jesus Christ. “LDS Church” is better, but it is still not clear what “LDS Church” is connected to in belief, and as far as an unfamiliar general audience is concerned, it could still misinform. This connects back to the Church’s belief that it is the actual Church of Jesus Christ on the earth today, connecting to a sincerely held belief of the faith.
- With what you’ve suggested are great good faith edits that we can use to work towards a common solution. I tried to come up with something alliterative to make the hooks more poetic and interesting, while still fitting the character limit. I think what you said with linking would work well to help clear up confusion on the denomination. Latter-day Saint, instead of “LDS” should still be clear as long as it is linked (like you’ve said). Here are the refined hooks:
- ALT4E... that architectural changes to the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) were viewed by Latter-day Saint leaders as posthumous instructions from a former president?
- ALT4F…that a lightning strike was seen by Latter-day Saint officials as beyond-the-grave design changes from a former leader for the St. George Utah Temple (pictured)?
- Using the term “Leaders” instead of “officials” should communicate the same idea- while making it a little lighter on characters. I tried a few options. It’s not a stretch that someone who knows what “LDS” means to use instead “Latter-day Saint”, which is clear and respectful, especially when it links the denomination, like you suggested. As long as it fits the character limit, I believe it should serve the same purpose. I reworded ALT4F, and I think it works a bit better grammatically:
- ALT4G…that a lightning strike to the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) was seen by Latter-day Saint officials as beyond-the-grave design changes from a former leader?
- The best solution seems to be to link and use the term Latter-day Saint, while shortening other elements to make a more engaging and concise hook. Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 17:15, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Note: I've just removed the bolding for "Latter-day Saint" in the most recently proposed ALT hooks, since it isn't a nominated article, just a wikilink, and put "(pictured)" in italics, as is required. Grammatically, "beyond the grave" should be hyphenated before "design changes", so I've edited that as well. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:53, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the help with the formatting and grammar! I appreciate the quick feedback and your being bold in fixing things.
- Something else I want to mention is that I am not opposed to using “LDS”, it is preferable if the hooks would work with the alternative “Latter-day Saint” (or not mentioning it by name)- as requested by the religion and their name style guide.
- Other users have not responded to me about what else specifically to fix, the original user doing the review hasn’t commented in about 9 days, given that the review expires in 2 weeks it is making me nervous, as I’m doing what I can, but the hook review doesn’t seem to be progressing. You seem to have lots of experience with DYK- may I request that you @BlueMoonset: do the full review on the hooks?
- Note: I've just removed the bolding for "Latter-day Saint" in the most recently proposed ALT hooks, since it isn't a nominated article, just a wikilink, and put "(pictured)" in italics, as is required. Grammatically, "beyond the grave" should be hyphenated before "design changes", so I've edited that as well. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:53, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- The best solution seems to be to link and use the term Latter-day Saint, while shortening other elements to make a more engaging and concise hook. Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 17:15, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- I would welcome additional feedback or opportunities on how I could improve additional hooks. I also edited and added information to the Wikipedia page about the cannon corrections. Here’s are some alt ideas for the cannon hook:
- ALT0A...that one source reports a cannon used by Napoleon in his Russian Campaign (pictured) was used to create the foundation of the St. George Utah Temple?
- ALT0B...that according to folklore, a cannon used by Napoleon in his Russian campaign (pictured) was used to pile drive the foundation of the St. George Utah Temple?
- The other hooks that would be best to use are ALT4F and ALT2 (there are also other variations throughout the article). Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 22:34, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Latter_Day_Saint_movement
- ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:St._George_Utah_Temple
- ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know
- ^ https://www.deseret.com/2013/11/14/20529587/brigham-young-the-architect-involved-in-all-kinds-of-utah-buildings/
- ^ https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/locations/brigham-young-winter-home-and-office?lang=eng
Zimbabwe at the 2014 Winter Olympics
- ... that although Zimbabwe does not experience snowfall, it participated in the 2014 Winter Olympics?
- Reviewed: n/a
- Comment: FYI, I might not reply fast on this nomination.
🐝 B33net 🐝 15:40, 12 February 2025 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- n
- Interesting:
- n
- Other problems:
- ?
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Drive-by nomination. The issue is that the hook is not particularly interesting, many tropical nations that do not snow have participated in the Winter Olympics. Also, the source does state that Zimbabwe had not had snowfall in 40 years... except it's the skier who said that,
"I don't think there has been any recorded snowfall in Zimbabwe in something like the last 40 years," the 20-year-old skier said in a telephone interview.
, I would not consider this quote to be reliable. @B33net: jolielover♥talk 14:13, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Not only that, but the claim is contradicted by a quick search: apparently it may have snowed in Zimbabwe in the 1930s, but more importantly, there have been reports of snow in more recent years (which may or may not be accurate, but at the very least it makes the claim questionable). I don't know if the following would be considered interesting, but the article is rather sparse on hooky material, thus:
- ALT1 ... that Luke Steyn, Zimbabwe's only athlete during its Winter Olympics debut in 2014, moved to Switzerland when he was two years old and grew up in Europe?
- Otherwise, the nomination may sadly have to be rejected for lack of a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Not only that, but the claim is contradicted by a quick search: apparently it may have snowed in Zimbabwe in the 1930s, but more importantly, there have been reports of snow in more recent years (which may or may not be accurate, but at the very least it makes the claim questionable). I don't know if the following would be considered interesting, but the article is rather sparse on hooky material, thus:
- @Narutolovehinata5: I did think of that, but most reports (that I saw) about snow in Zimbabwe concluded that it was a country that does not snow, and its last recorded snowfall was 70+ years ago. The reports of snow in Zimbabwe in recent times, though debated, reportedly all happened after his participation. That's what I remember of when I searched info about snow in Zimbabwe when reviewing this hook. I do like your rewording of the hook, though not sure if I should pass it since the nominator has been AWOL from this nom since. Alternatively:
ALT2 ... that Luke Steyn was Zimbabwe's only athlete during its Winter Olympics debut in 2014?
@B33net:, what do you think about the new hooks? jolielover♥talk 16:44, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Jolielover: I agree with the new hooks. I’m trying to make them more intriguing. I feel like the Luke Steyn moving to Switzerland would be a good DYK 🐝 B33net 🐝 11:57, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
New reviewer needed for ALT hooks, since prior reviewer Jolielover has not returned in over a month. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:39, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2a:
... that at the 2014 Winter Olympics, Zimbabwe batted precisely one athlete?--Launchballer 15:41, 5 April 2025 (UTC)- Note: striking ALT2a. I have no idea what "batted" means in this context (not in American English, at least), and it isn't used in the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:27, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that ALT2a meant exactly the same as ALT2 in fewer words, although I can't find a dictionary that defines it that way. ALT2b: ... that at the 2014 Winter Olympics, Zimbabwe fielded precisely one athlete?--Launchballer 05:44, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 13
[edit]Sequoites dakotensis
- ... that in 1935, when Sequoites dakotensis (pictured) was first described as a member of the genus Sequoia, it was common for such species to be known only by their fossilized cones?
- Source: Brown, Roland W. (October 15, 1935). "Some fossil conifers from Maryland and North Dakota". Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences. 25 (10): 441-450. JSTOR 24530142.
Pbritti (talk) 05:12, 13 February 2025 (UTC).
- This is currently at the wrong taxonomic placement, see here and the affinity is uncertain as of 2002 [2]--Kevmin § 16:09, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Those are helpful sources and will be utilized to further improve the article. Regarding the wrong taxonomic placement, I'm seeing Sequoiites dakotensis, though this seems to be the use of an accepted alternative name for early examples in the genus Sequoia. Am I mistaken here? This is not my area of expertise, so I will be wholly deferring to your judgement. Thanks for digging those sources up! ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:03, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- A 2014 North America Research Group publication appears to agree with the Sequoia classification of Sequoia dakotensis as Sequoia. So the 2002 paper is contradicted by a more recent publication https://propagationnation.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Lowe2014_GeologicHistoryGiantSequoia.pdf --Bubblesorg (talk) 18:19, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: Sequoites is not an alternative name for Sequoia, it is a fossil genus name, and currently the species is still placed in it by the Internation Fossil Plant Names Index overseen by paleobotanist Alexander B. Doweld. @Bubblesorg: NARG (North America Research Group) is an ameture fossil club in the Pacific North West, it does not qualify as a reliable source for wikipedia--Kevmin § 14:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Counter, the NARG is made up of reliable advisors. Gary D. Lowe is indeed a real specialist in redwood trees and has many more reliable papers. Also, NARG thing was cited by a peer reviewed paper-https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10806-024-09942-0.
- @Kevmin and Bubblesorg: While I am familiar with amateur botanists writing reliable sources, I am going to defer to peer review publications and a taxonomic database on this. I have moved the page and made changes to indicate that the currently accepted name is Sequoites dakotensis and that the status of the plant is uncertain. I don't know how to fix the taxonomic infobox so that the genus Sequoites functions, but I can give that a shot tonight. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:00, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Gary D. Lowe is not a amateur botanist, he is a real specialist. Also not, do not move the thing. It is not the accepted name. There is still a link for Sequoia dakotensis (https://www.ifpni.org/species.htm?id=C5C500AA-BA29-4A36-B914-5696D1B33A65). Please do not move anything around. I just reversed the change. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:03, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin and Bubblesorg: While I am familiar with amateur botanists writing reliable sources, I am going to defer to peer review publications and a taxonomic database on this. I have moved the page and made changes to indicate that the currently accepted name is Sequoites dakotensis and that the status of the plant is uncertain. I don't know how to fix the taxonomic infobox so that the genus Sequoites functions, but I can give that a shot tonight. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:00, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Counter, the NARG is made up of reliable advisors. Gary D. Lowe is indeed a real specialist in redwood trees and has many more reliable papers. Also, NARG thing was cited by a peer reviewed paper-https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10806-024-09942-0.
- @Pbritti: Sequoites is not an alternative name for Sequoia, it is a fossil genus name, and currently the species is still placed in it by the Internation Fossil Plant Names Index overseen by paleobotanist Alexander B. Doweld. @Bubblesorg: NARG (North America Research Group) is an ameture fossil club in the Pacific North West, it does not qualify as a reliable source for wikipedia--Kevmin § 14:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- A 2014 North America Research Group publication appears to agree with the Sequoia classification of Sequoia dakotensis as Sequoia. So the 2002 paper is contradicted by a more recent publication https://propagationnation.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Lowe2014_GeologicHistoryGiantSequoia.pdf --Bubblesorg (talk) 18:19, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Those are helpful sources and will be utilized to further improve the article. Regarding the wrong taxonomic placement, I'm seeing Sequoiites dakotensis, though this seems to be the use of an accepted alternative name for early examples in the genus Sequoia. Am I mistaken here? This is not my area of expertise, so I will be wholly deferring to your judgement. Thanks for digging those sources up! ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:03, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
He may be a specialist, but a taxonomic authority prefers Sequoites. The link you provided above considers Sequoia dakotensis a synonym of Sequoites dakotensis. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:10, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- The website is just a taxonomic names list, it does not speak to a consensus per say. Also, it does not confirm synonyms here, it just puts this as saying that some authors consider it a synonym or basionym. https://www.ifpni.org/species.htm?id=C5C500AA-BA29-4A36-B914-5696D1B33A65. Bring me papers and books. Actually the Sequoites dakotensis discussion should be separate from this discussion. Sequoites is not the same thing as Sequoia from a paleobotanical sense. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: I was not expecting a long-dead tree to cause such disruption! I'm requesting a stay on this review until the taxonomic issues are sorted out. @Bubblesorg: multiple taxonomic authorities superior to a non-peer-reviewed amateur book reject the Sequoia name. The plant has been reassigned and remains somewhat uncertain, per Kevmin. Cut-and-paste moves are disruptive. We can discuss this further on the talk page. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:24, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- What multiple papers? Most papers either suggest Sequoia or Parataxodium. Only parts of the plant are assigned to Sequoites. You did not have any consensus here to change it. I only used the Gary point to respond to the other person when they questioned the reliability of the source, I am not using it here to keep the name as Sequoia instead of Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Pbritti agreed, we should reach a stable version of the article and correctly cover the taxonomy issue (some authors fully and wrongly ignoring Bell) before we continue the nom here, I'll have to step out from reviewing as I have now added notable information to the article.--Kevmin § 15:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Bubblesorg This discussion needs to be at the article talk page. The IFPNI listing at Sequoia dakotensis specifically links it to Sequoites dakotensis as a jr synonym, and notes it as the older name. I also just added a summary from Kevin Aulenbacks book on the Horseshoe Canyon Formation, where he specifically also uses Sequoites dakotensis, connects it to PArataxodium and links several other organ taxa into a larger whole plant reconstruction based on foliage, ovulate cone, pollen, and pollen cone morphology. All that we now seem to be missing is a formal paper making the official moves and synonymies.--Kevmin § 15:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- He linked it to many genera not just Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- Question, does the Saurian field guide count as a reliable source? Probably not. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:49, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- He linked it to many genera not just Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- What multiple papers? Most papers either suggest Sequoia or Parataxodium. Only parts of the plant are assigned to Sequoites. You did not have any consensus here to change it. I only used the Gary point to respond to the other person when they questioned the reliability of the source, I am not using it here to keep the name as Sequoia instead of Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
new reviewer needed as I have substantially added and edited the article now, also the page move of the nomination here is creating editing access issues wit the nomination templates.-Kevmin § 15:46, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Not seeing an actual review here, so I'll take it once I've eaten.--Launchballer 15:04, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
@Pbritti, Bubblesorg, and Kevmin: Long enough, new enough. QPQ done and Earwig is clean. I see nothing deserving of a maintenance template, but I do see that the hook needs an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 15:40, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: I cant seem to find this statement in Brown, do you remember where you found it? If not we should come up with a different hook:
- ALT1 "... that Sequoites dakotensis (pictured) was first described from clay-filled casts and not the original cones?"
- Brown 1935 "These cones are ferruginous mud casts, the solid portion of which represents the spaces, and the cavities the woody substance of origin"--Kevmin § 14:06, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Kevmin: I'm not on the computer I use for most of my editing today. I'll get back to you on this late tomorrow or early Monday UTC when I have access to the JSTOR and the relevant articles. ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:38, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- I support the ALT1 proposal. Once the article move goes through (it looks like a sure thing now), I think we just need a new reviewer and we're good here. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:40, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Kevmin: I'm not on the computer I use for most of my editing today. I'll get back to you on this late tomorrow or early Monday UTC when I have access to the JSTOR and the relevant articles. ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:38, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: I cant seem to find this statement in Brown, do you remember where you found it? If not we should come up with a different hook:
Articles created/expanded on February 15
[edit]Louisiana Mayor's Courts
- ... that in the United States Louisiana and Ohio are the only states with Mayor's Courts?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Under "Mayor's Court" drop-down
Otr500 (talk) 03:46, 16 February 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- There are at least one non-lead paragraph without sources (see the section Issues of conflicts of interest and bias). There are also failed verifications from sources, for example completely dead and recent sources (ref 5) and sources that links to appearently personal files on OneDrive (ref 4). Also see the comment I gave for the hook's source (ref 2).
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- The source have a failed verification to the hook: it had zero mentions of the word "Ohio", so it's safe to assume that it didn't verify the hook.
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
- I'm quite concerned about whether the hook is relevant to the article: it doesn't quite make sense to say that there are two states with Mayor Courts, but linking the bolded link to one of the state's court.
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Earwig said 16.7% simliarity, but Court costs section seems like the list is a mostly-copy of the source (with some modifications), so I'm not entirely sure about this. There are some style issues with the page, eg. starting a list without starting a new line and not using a list in the See also section. Overall, well done on creating the article, but there is some work required to be eligible DYK levels. (PS: I'm a new reviewer, other reviwers: please correct me if necessary) Replicative Cloverleaf (talk) 12:03, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Otr500: Have the above concerns been resolved, and is this ready for a re-review? Z1720 (talk) 02:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- OMG! I am so sorry all. I have been having problems, including health, the internet went out, and a laptop dying. I am better (I still have health issues), bought a new PC, and changed internet providers. Hopefully, this has not expired. I will try to resolve the issues (hopefully) tomorrow. -- Otr500 (talk) 00:06, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Z1720 I think it is ready. I have made what I think are improvements, removed redundancy, replaced dead sources, and removed the improper source. I changed the list to prose and added more sources. I think I have covered all concerns unless I just overlooked something. -- Otr500 (talk) 06:29, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 16
[edit]Nicole Gee
- ... that Marine Sergeant Nicole Gee helped evacuate infants and females as part of Operation Allies Refuge, and helped save over 124,000 lives in the largest U.S. airlift operation ever?
- Source: USS Iwo Jima Memorial Plaque photograph (https://taskandpurpose.com/news/nicole-gee-uss-iwo-jima-gym-dedication/)
- Reviewed:
DMVHistorian (talk) 01:04, 17 February 2025 (UTC).
@DMVHistorian: The current hook cannot be used as it is far above the 200-character limit. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:40, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Marine Nicole Gee assisted in evacuating civilians for Operation Allies Refuge, and helped save over 124,000 lives in the largest U.S. airlift operation ever? Maximilian775 (talk) 03:37, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- going to review this --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:20, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
Touching article, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. The image is hard to see, but if it went viral, many might recognize it. I suggest to trim the hook: the number of people the operation helped is amazing without a superlative:
- ALT0a: ... that Marine Nicole Gee (pictured) assisted in evacuating Afghan infants and women in Operation Allies Refuge, helping to save over 124,000 lives.
- ALT1 is superior to the original, but also needs pictured somewhere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:54, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
@Maximilian775 and Gerda Arendt: I think it would be preferable to use a hook that focuses what Nicole Gee did personally or how she was honoured, rather than what the general operation did. Perhaps a hook in that vein could be suggested? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:01, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Marine Nicole Gee assisted in evacuating civilians for Operation Allies Refuge, and helped save over 124,000 lives in the largest U.S. airlift operation ever? Maximilian775 (talk) 03:37, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Maybe:
- ALT2 ... that six days prior to her death, Nicole Gee (pictured) posted a picture on social media of her holding an Afghan infant, remarking "I love my job?"
- ALT3 ... that following Nicole Gee's (pictured) death in a suicide bombing attack in Afghanistan, the California State Assembly renamed a portion of Interstate 80 after her?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:07, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- I like the approach of ALT2 to explain the image, but it misses what her position and what she was doing. In ALT3, I don't like the awkward position of pictured between name and "death", and see too much attention how she died, and who renamed what, - too little about her for my taste. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging AirshipJungleman29 regarding thoughts on ALT2/ALT3, or if another angle is needed. As for Gerda's concern regarding ALT2, mentioning that she was a Marine might be redundant considering the image shows she's a soldier. It could be added if the hook ultimately runs without an image. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:00, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't really see how Gerda can prefer the former hooks which say nothing about Ms Gee beyond her employer, to the latter ones which actually describe her life but somehow "contain too little about her". Not a very convincing argument, in my book. ALT2 is fine with me. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 07:55, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- (ec) reply to N:
- If you can see anything in that rather dark picture, your eyes must be better than mine. We (or at least I) can't even see that she is probably not Afghan, nor a uniform, in small size, + we should not count on the picture being taken, remember Mirella Freni?). ALT2 spends characters on the exact number of days (which could be "shortly") but only says "holding an Afghan infant", not that this was in the process of rescuing the baby, babies and women, in a major action (which I think should appear linked). ALT2 doesn't say that her death was being killed in duty, which would make the hook meaningful. ALT2 conveys (for me) that a woman holding a baby loves to do it but sadly died. The connection between acting and death is missing, but seems crucial to me.
- reply to AJM: I accepted the nominator's suggestion as I tend to do. I like ALT2 better and thought I said so, it's just too meaningless so far but I hope for improvement. You can help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: I'm guessing ALT2 is approved then? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:49, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- I used this review as a qpq and would like to conclude it; therefore I refrained from wording an ALT, just expressed what would be needed to clarify that she wasn't just some woman who likes babies, loves her job and dies. Better versions welcome.
- ALT4: ... that Sergeant Nicole Gee, who helped to evacuate Afghan infants and women, posted "I love my job" with an image (pictured) six days prior to her death?
- We might be more explicit about how she died. I cropped the caption, - the image caption of this story is not the place to educate where Kabul is located. I don't know if the placement of the ? in ALT2 has a meaning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:31, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Gerda, you are being strangely possessive over a nomination that is not even yours, merely one that you are reviewing. AJ29 already said they liked ALT2, so I don't see why you believe that her manner of death is non-negotiable. AJ29 also said that they prefer a hook that moves away from the operation itself, so I'm not even sure if your hook (which I've labeled ALT4) even satisfies their concerns. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:49, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, how many of Gerda's nominations in the past year have you not commented on? Maybe think about that before accusing others of "being strangely possessive over a nomination that is not even yours"? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Touche. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:02, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, how many of Gerda's nominations in the past year have you not commented on? Maybe think about that before accusing others of "being strangely possessive over a nomination that is not even yours"? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Gerda, you are being strangely possessive over a nomination that is not even yours, merely one that you are reviewing. AJ29 already said they liked ALT2, so I don't see why you believe that her manner of death is non-negotiable. AJ29 also said that they prefer a hook that moves away from the operation itself, so I'm not even sure if your hook (which I've labeled ALT4) even satisfies their concerns. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:49, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- DMVHistorian, what do you think. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:11, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't really see how Gerda can prefer the former hooks which say nothing about Ms Gee beyond her employer, to the latter ones which actually describe her life but somehow "contain too little about her". Not a very convincing argument, in my book. ALT2 is fine with me. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 07:55, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging AirshipJungleman29 regarding thoughts on ALT2/ALT3, or if another angle is needed. As for Gerda's concern regarding ALT2, mentioning that she was a Marine might be redundant considering the image shows she's a soldier. It could be added if the hook ultimately runs without an image. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:00, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- I like the approach of ALT2 to explain the image, but it misses what her position and what she was doing. In ALT3, I don't like the awkward position of pictured between name and "death", and see too much attention how she died, and who renamed what, - too little about her for my taste. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thinking about this again, I'm not so sure about ALT4. ALT4 seems to de-emphasize the picture and its context, whereas ALT2 keeps it as the focus. ALT4 seems to emphasize the death a lot more than the actual picture, and I have reservations that it is the best angle to go with. In any case, as DMVHistorian has largely not been active and hasn't responded to the above, pinging AirshipJungleman29 again for thoughts regarding ALT2/ALT4 so this can move forward. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:59, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- I am sure that focus on the picture is a bad idea because - while emotionally touching - you don't see much, and certainly not her job. (The picture may not even be taken.) I think we should explicitly say that her job was the (military) rescue of infants and women. Good for her! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 19
[edit]Big Three (World War II)
- ... that there were five individuals leaders of the Big Three in World War II? Source: see sources in 'Composition of the Big Three'
- ALT1: ... that Stalin is considered the most successful leader of the Big Three in World War II? Source: Dukes and Kingseed as cited in the relevant sentence
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Demons of the Punjab
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:13, 19 February 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: Can I propose ALT2:
... that the Big Three had five members?~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 04:38, 20 February 2025 (UTC)- Sure! In that short form we could keep it for April Fools even :P --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:08, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Review: Should've indicated that this was expanded instead of created, article passes all DYK checks, contents cited, all clear. Approved ALT2. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 01:26, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- I am not sure if 'expanded' counts for redirects? Not that's it's a biggie, but if closing admin has a comment here, do ping us :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:08, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- You want "Converted from a redirect" instead of "Created", such at The World's Biggest Gang Bang III – The Houston 620. I've updated this.--Launchballer 12:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Darth Stabro, Launchballer, and Piotrus: Oops, I forgot to give the
approve tag!
Approving the ALT2 hook for April Fool's Day! Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:33, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Darth Stabro, Piotrus, and Jeromi Mikhael: The hook says "has five members" but the article says Truman and Attlee "are also sometimes counted as the members". I'd also question whether ALT2 has enough context.--Launchballer 15:18, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe even more hooky, Launchballer: "
... that the Big Three may have had five members?" ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 15:32, 25 March 2025 (UTC)- I fixed that link with what I think you meant, but I'd still worry about context (big three what?).--Launchballer 16:01, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I hear you, but for April Fools, unclear context is the norm, I think. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:07, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- I fixed that link with what I think you meant, but I'd still worry about context (big three what?).--Launchballer 16:01, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Striking the ALT2 and subsequent hooks, since they rely on the three/five fact for April Fools that is pretty weak to begin with, and certainly won't fly as a regular hook now that the April Fools set has run. I think the original hook and ALT1 could be reviewed to be regular hooks, and perhaps Piotrus will wish to propose other hooks, but since only ALT2 was approved, the approval has lapsed. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:20, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sigh. Pinging User:Jeromi Mikhael - can you approve earlier hooks, so this can be processed? TIA. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:22, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 20
[edit]Jorge Munoz (American football)
... that Jorge Munoz, who once mentored Michael Desormeaux, is now an assistant on Desormeaux's coaching staff at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette?Source: [1][2]ALT1: ... that, in two years of college football at Southwestern College in California, Jorge Munoz "rewrote virtually all of Southwestern's offensive record book"?Source: [3]- Reviewed:
JTtheOG (talk) 09:11, 21 February 2025 (UTC).
Full review to follow, but I suggest dropping all hooks except for maybe ALT1. ALT2 isn't that unusual, and the others only appeal to college football fans (a minority outside of the US, even in countries where American football has a following). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:42, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging BeanieFan11 for possible hook suggestions as ALT1 seems marginally interesting to me at best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- From a quick glance (looking at the ALT0 hook), maybe something like ALT2: ... that American football coach Jorge Munoz is an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've modified it to say "American football" instead for the benefit of our non-North American readership. Pinging JTtheOG for their thoughts on the new hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- I definitely agree that BeanieFan11's suggestion is easier to understand than my original hook. JTtheOG (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11 and JTtheOG: Thanks! Just one last thing. The current wording could be challenged by other editors per WP:DYKHOOK (the "unlikely to change" criterion). It's true now, but there's a chance it could change before promotion/running. A more future-proof wording may be needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2b:... that American football coach Jorge Munoz served as an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- That looks great to me. Would it be considered bad form to do a piped link to Desormeaux? JTtheOG (talk) 07:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- It's optional. Ideally we try to avoid too many blue links in a hook to prevent viewership diversion, but it might not be harmful in this case. I'll leave it to you, and if there are any objections those can be sorted out in prep. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, I am fine with omitting the additional link. I suppose readers may click on the Munoz link or the reference for more information. JTtheOG (talk) 19:44, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- It's optional. Ideally we try to avoid too many blue links in a hook to prevent viewership diversion, but it might not be harmful in this case. I'll leave it to you, and if there are any objections those can be sorted out in prep. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- That looks great to me. Would it be considered bad form to do a piped link to Desormeaux? JTtheOG (talk) 07:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2b:... that American football coach Jorge Munoz served as an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11 and JTtheOG: Thanks! Just one last thing. The current wording could be challenged by other editors per WP:DYKHOOK (the "unlikely to change" criterion). It's true now, but there's a chance it could change before promotion/running. A more future-proof wording may be needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- I definitely agree that BeanieFan11's suggestion is easier to understand than my original hook. JTtheOG (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've modified it to say "American football" instead for the benefit of our non-North American readership. Pinging JTtheOG for their thoughts on the new hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- From a quick glance (looking at the ALT0 hook), maybe something like ALT2: ... that American football coach Jorge Munoz is an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging BeanieFan11 for possible hook suggestions as ALT1 seems marginally interesting to me at best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! I was originally going to review this myself, but the article is pretty dense so that might be a bit tough, so I'll leave the full review to another editor. I've struck all the other proposals, leaving just the most recent wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:17, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help, as this is my first DYK nom. JTtheOG (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
This article, created on 21 Feb, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio problems. However, JTtheOG Narutolovehinata5 I can't find the hook about Desormeaux (ALT2) in the article. It says
Desormeaux was brought on as an assistant
, but nothing abt Munoz being an assistant to Desormeaux. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:13, 13 March 2025 (UTC)- Hello, thank you for taking a look at this. The first source (The Athletic) identifies: 1. Desormeaux as having inherited the Louisiana head coach position from Billy Napier and 2. Munoz as being Louisiana's "new associate head coach and tight ends coach", both of which are assistant positions under a head coach on a staff. I should probably remove the quote from the ref, since you've correctly shown that it does not completely verify the claim. JTtheOG (talk) 19:21, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- @JTtheOG: Thanks for the response, which admittedly goes over my head a little (I'm not awfully familiar with American football). Per WP:DYKHOOK, the hook has to be clearly in the article and with a citation at the end of the sentence. Can you make it obvious somewhere in the page, with citations? Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 17:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, thank you for taking a look at this. The first source (The Athletic) identifies: 1. Desormeaux as having inherited the Louisiana head coach position from Billy Napier and 2. Munoz as being Louisiana's "new associate head coach and tight ends coach", both of which are assistant positions under a head coach on a staff. I should probably remove the quote from the ref, since you've correctly shown that it does not completely verify the claim. JTtheOG (talk) 19:21, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help, as this is my first DYK nom. JTtheOG (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Miller, Brody (May 29, 2022). "Louisiana football has reached new heights, but plenty of upside remains for Ragin' Cajuns". The Athletic. Archived from the original on February 21, 2025.
Maybe the most interesting addition is yet another person familiar with Lafayette, and that is new associate head coach and tight ends coach Jorge Munoz. Munoz previously spent 10 years at Louisiana coaching various positions, including being Desormeaux's quarterbacks coach. It was actually Munoz who brought Desormeaux on staff as running backs coach in 2016 when Munoz was offensive coordinator.
- ^ "UL's Munoz promoted to offensive coordinator". The Daily Advertiser. February 5, 2016.
For Desormeaux, working with his old mentor may mean as much as being back on campus.
- ^ Brents, Phillip (September 10, 1994). "Apaches are at bottom looking up". The Star-News. p. A6 – via Newspapers.com.
Articles created/expanded on February 21
[edit]Sophie Rain
- ... that Sophie Rain's recent "Playboy Mansion" requires "no silk robe-sporting old men"?
- ALT1: ... that Sophie Rain's massive success on OnlyFans has been attributed to her "unconventional looks"?
- ALT2: ... that OnlyFans is "not sunshine and rainbows 24/7", according to the platform's Sophie Rain?
- ALT3: ... that Sophie Rain was recently described as being in an "OnlyFans arms race" with two other creators?
- ALT4: ... that Sophie Rain went from living on food stamps to making $43,477,695.01 in a year on OnlyFans?
- ALT5: ... that Sophie Rain advertises her OnlyFans account on her Christianity and virginity?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Prosecutor
- Comment: ... and if WP:DYKHOOKBLP wasn't a thing, I'd propose ALT6: ... that "the horniest man in America" sent Sophie Rain's OnlyFans account $4.7 million in a year?.
Launchballer 05:26, 21 February 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: I've seen the subject in the news a bit lately. I find it extrodinary that there are so many simps willing to throw ridiculous amounts of money at content creators, but whatever floats your boat. Approve hook ALT4 which I think is a hell of a lot more interesting than references to Hugh Hefner in ALT0. Ps, for anyone looking for the supporting source it's this one TarnishedPathtalk 10:45, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
@Launchballer and TarnishedPath: The nomination has been pulled per the discussion at WT:DYK#Sophie Rain. Concerns were raised about the references used. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:37, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- (ec, from WT:DYK) New one on me regarding the Evening Standard, but I've cut everything except for an attributed opinion, which is also what Vice is solely used for. People is only being used for the claims that she goes to church and grew up on food stamps, neither of which I would describe as contentious (but the latter claim's also in the South China Morning Post and in this Riverfront Times piece). Complex is Complex Networks and has an editor-in-chief, according to Variety. Also, the number is also in this National World piece, which I was surprised to see people at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 465#NationalWorld.com sticking up for earlier this year. I'll take a closer look at Complex once I've eaten.--Launchballer 12:40, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I trimmed Complex for everything other than "$10 a month", which isn't contentious, and People for everything other than $50 million (I don't think it's contentious to say that "person who made lots of money makes even more"). What else?--Launchballer 13:09, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith, putting aside your dislike for the content matter, are the changes which have been made sufficient? TarnishedPathtalk 02:30, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- We've got a big backlog of better material to run. I don't see that we need to go here. RoySmith (talk) 02:49, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- We currently have the smallest backlog we've had all year, and this meets all five of WP:DYKAIM.--Launchballer 16:24, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- We've got a big backlog of better material to run. I don't see that we need to go here. RoySmith (talk) 02:49, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith, putting aside your dislike for the content matter, are the changes which have been made sufficient? TarnishedPathtalk 02:30, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I trimmed Complex for everything other than "$10 a month", which isn't contentious, and People for everything other than $50 million (I don't think it's contentious to say that "person who made lots of money makes even more"). What else?--Launchballer 13:09, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
Personally, I'd prefer we don't run this kind of sensationalistic drek at all, but even if we do end up finding better sources and running this, please change "$43,477,695.01" to "$43 million" in the hook for style reasons. RoySmith (talk) 13:13, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT4a: ... that Sophie Rain went from living on food stamps to making $43 million in a year on OnlyFans?--Launchballer 13:09, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- This is starting to ossify, so I posted at WP:RSN#Sophie Rain.--Launchballer 18:53, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
Just archived and they were fine with what was there. New reviewer needed.--Launchballer 17:29, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- This is starting to ossify, so I posted at WP:RSN#Sophie Rain.--Launchballer 18:53, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
Kirisuto no Haka
- ... that a village in Japan claims that it was Jesus's resting place?
- ALT1:
... that Jesus might've died in Japan?Source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-little-known-legend-of-jesus-in-japan-165354242/ - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chinese Garden MRT station
- Comment: ALT is a more "humorous" version. I don't know why I did that... or maybe I originally did this for April fools. I have a short memory...
ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 01:29, 21 February 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: ALT1 would be really funny, but I think the phrasing will have to be changed to be stated as a fact. I'll suggest:
ALT2:... that the tomb of Jesus Christ (pictured) is in Japan?
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 20:53, 21 February 2025 (UTC) Date, size, hook, spotchecks, no problem. This might be a good choice to hold for April Fools indeed. And we can use an image here, too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:34, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure how April fools hooks are selected, can someone give me a guidance on that? Apparently imaged hooks take ages to appear, and I'll likely be semi-retired by the time the hook with the image runs. If this hook ever happens to be selected as an April fools hook, I would go with ALT0 (I thought ALT0 was for the original hook, but I guess DYK has a weird numbering system.) ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 08:58, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma: I renumbered Vigilantcosmicpenguin's ALT0. You need to a) add this to WP:DYKAPRIL and b) add the image to this page if you want it considered.--Launchballer 15:35, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, tweaked ALT2 and moved the template. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 01:12, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma: I renumbered Vigilantcosmicpenguin's ALT0. You need to a) add this to WP:DYKAPRIL and b) add the image to this page if you want it considered.--Launchballer 15:35, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- I do not know if this is already reserve for DYKAPRIL, but frankly I do not see this hook as April Fools worthy. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:37, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
As the translation is "tomb of the Christ", the April Fool's hook would be ALT2a: ... that the tomb of the Christ (pictured) is in Japan?.--Launchballer 14:07, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Here is another attempt:
- ALT3:
... that as of 2013, an estimated 20,000 visitors a year went to see the tomb of the Christ (pictured) in Japan?
- ALT3:
- Think other hooks are possible; there are more bizarre facts that could easily be added to the article. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT4: ... that although tens of thousands of people visit the tomb of Christ (pictured) each year, very few believe it is real?
- The truth is bizarre enough, so just tell it like it is? Cielquiparle (talk) 06:33, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, I think I like ALT4 better. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:40, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Here is another attempt:
Piotrus, since this nomination was not chosen for April Fools, the hooks need to be rereviewed for their suitability as regular hooks. Please check them, strike any that don't work, and mention below which ones, if any, do (and if they do, please also add the appropriate tick). Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I see no problem with running the hooks proposed here on regular day, although ALT4 is likely most clear and less tongue-in-cheek. Up to closing admin preference which to go with. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:24, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
Piotrus, really? You see no problem at all with a hook stating in Wikipedia's voice that
the tomb of Jesus Christ
orthe tomb of the Christ
isin Japan
? I do. I've struck those two as being unsuitable, and ALT1 as well. That leaves the original hook and ALT4, and under the circumstances I'm going to suggest that a new reviewer be asked to determine whether either is suitable, or if a new hook need to be proposed. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:49, 5 April 2025 (UTC)- @BlueMoonset: Maybe I was still too much in the April Fools mode, but that's the gist of the tourist attraction. Shrug. Anyway, if you prefer ALT4, that's totally fine with me, it is certainly the most clear and serious. But some more bold ideas in hooks really wouldn't hurt. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:03, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- I see no problem with running the hooks proposed here on regular day, although ALT4 is likely most clear and less tongue-in-cheek. Up to closing admin preference which to go with. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:24, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 22
[edit]Pop (Gas album)
... that pop music originated from German techno?
- Source: Intended as an April Fools' hook
Lazman321 (talk) 07:54, 11 February 2025 (UTC).
Hi @Lazman321:, since this article was promoted to GA on 22/02/2025, it qualifies for DYK. The GA review saw no problems and the QPQ is done, so almost everything is okay for DYK. The only worry I have is the wording pop music. "Pop music" may be misunderstood by many readers as the well-known popular genre. So I propose a more precise expression for the bold-faced link before giving it a green light. Munfarid1 (talk) 09:58, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Munfarid1: Well, this is meant to be an April Fools' hook, so the intent is to mislead the reader. How about:
- ALT1:
... that pop originated from German techno?Lazman321 (talk) 18:14, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
, ALT1 is ok for me and review finished. The promoter may choose which one they prefer for April Fool's Day. ;)
- @Lazman321 and Munfarid1: I can't find the hook in the article, can you help me find it?--Launchballer 13:12, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, @Lazman321 and Launchballer: I understood the following phrase to mean the same as in ALT1: "...wanting to create a "pop sound" for his subculture of German techno..." - I admit it's not exactly the same wording as in the hook. If you think, we need a closer paraphrase for the hook, Lazman321 would probably have to formulate one. Munfarid1 (talk) 18:23, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- That would need a source.--Launchballer 18:32, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: The hook is meant to be a play on the fact that Wolfgang Voigt, the maker of this album, was part of the German techno scene, which is cited in the article. Maybe you would prefer:
- That would need a source.--Launchballer 18:32, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, @Lazman321 and Launchballer: I understood the following phrase to mean the same as in ALT1: "...wanting to create a "pop sound" for his subculture of German techno..." - I admit it's not exactly the same wording as in the hook. If you think, we need a closer paraphrase for the hook, Lazman321 would probably have to formulate one. Munfarid1 (talk) 18:23, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Lazman321 and Munfarid1: I can't find the hook in the article, can you help me find it?--Launchballer 13:12, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2:
... Pop's creator was part of the German techno scene?Source: Berlin flourished as a natural home to Techno but so too did other German cities, not least Cologne, where Voigt released a number of 12”s under a dizzying array of monikers...The four albums Voigt would release as Gas...consist of Gas (1996), Zauberberg (1997), Königsforst (1999) and Pop (2000). Lazman321 (talk) 02:06, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Why didn't you respond before April 1st? Now the April Fools hooks are up. Lazman321 (talk) 15:35, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Pinging. Lazman321 (talk) 15:36, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
Since all of the hooks were written with April Fools in mind, and the nomination wasn't promoted for that day, a new hook will be needed. To start things off, recasting ALT2 very slightly so it isn't misleading, while striking all previous hooks as unsuitable for regular DYK sets:
- ALT2a: ... that Pop's creator was part of the German techno scene?
- Also, since the original review gave the article a pass based on the GA review, which is never supposed to be the case—DYK reviews need to be done independently because GA reviewers make mistakes—this needs a new reviewer to check not only the new ALT but also the entire article. Other new ALTs are also welcome, if Lazman321 has additional ideas. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:09, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that the records of an acclaimed ambient music project, including Pop, were out of print for years? [3]
- Thanks for the help. Here's a potential hook. Lazman321 (talk) 02:55, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 23
[edit]Accomplishment of Fudanshi Bartender
- ... that the Japanese live-action television drama adaptation of Accomplishment of Fudanshi Bartender was first broadcast in Taiwan before being broadcast in its home country?
- Source: Shūkan TV Guide (link): ドラマは、なる粉氏の同名コミックを原作に映像化され、2021年12月に台湾で先行放送された。
lullabying (talk) 05:00, 25 February 2025 (UTC).
This article, created on 23 February, is long enough, new enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio issues. QPQ done. @Lullabying: This hook isn't very interesting (to me, at least). Did you have any others in mind? Tenpop421 (talk) 14:18, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'll try my best, but this is all that I can find for now, as coverage on this series is limited. lullabying (talk) 04:51, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- The hook is more than adequate IMO. If everything checks out and the hook conforms to all the requirements, the DYK should not be held up any further. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:32, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @P199: I just don't see what's interesting about a Japanese show being broadcast in Taiwan first, but I'll move this forward if you could explain your perspective. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 13:48, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I agree it is not the most exciting hook, but adequate. We just can't expect every hook to be amazing, especially if the article's topic is rather bland. But we should keep in mind the main principle of DYK: "we want people to see the new articles our volunteers have put time and effort into crafting." -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:00, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @P199: There's no rush. This is a recent nom, and if nothing turns up, we can run with ALTO. We want people to see the new articles, and an interesting hook serves that purpose. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:35, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I agree it is not the most exciting hook, but adequate. We just can't expect every hook to be amazing, especially if the article's topic is rather bland. But we should keep in mind the main principle of DYK: "we want people to see the new articles our volunteers have put time and effort into crafting." -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:00, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @P199: I just don't see what's interesting about a Japanese show being broadcast in Taiwan first, but I'll move this forward if you could explain your perspective. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 13:48, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 25
[edit]Inchnabobart
- ... that Prince Harry taught the Queen Mother to say "booyakasha" at Inchnabobart?
- Source: ["At one point I told Gan-Gan about Ali G, the character played by Sacha Baron Cohen. I taught her to say "Booyakasha", showing her how to flick her fingers the way Sacha did. She couldn't grasp it, she had no idea what I was talking about but she had such fun trying to flick and say the word. With every repetition of that word, Booyakasha, she’d shriek which would make everyone else smile. It tickled me, it thrilled me. It made me feel … part of things". Spare (memoir), Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, Penguin Group, 2024, 978-1-78222-191-3, page 79]
No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC).
New enough (nominated within 2 days of creation), long enough (1767 characters). AGF on offline book sources, of which there are several, which one would expect for the subject. Copyvio seems highly unlikely. There are several sentences quoted and cited appropriately from a book by Prince Harry. Tone is neutral. QPQ is done. Hook is attention-getting. It appears in the article and is cited appropriately. Per past discussions on DYK Talk, it is OK for hooks to cite primary sources. Excellent candidate for the quirky slot. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:40, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
@Cielquiparle and No Swan So Fine: I do not believe that half of the article sourced to Spare are WP:DUE, especially the trivial details of cooking, drinking, teaching catchphrases, and the quotes. Obviously, that is a problem for DYK reasons, as without them the article would be way under the DYK limit; nevertheless, I cannot promote this article in its current state. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:13, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: The details about the building's interior and how the royal family has used the building helps to bring the building to life. Point taken, however, about the footprint of the Prince Harry anecdote relative to the total real estate of the article. To address this, I have split up the overlong paragraph about the royal family's historical use of the property (which didn't really belong with the Prince Harry story about spending time there with his grandfather and great-grandmother). I've also created sections and sub-sections in the rest of the article, re-arranged some of the flow, and added a few more details from the other extensive sources cited in the article in the first place. I respect your personal wish not to promote this article, but hope that another promoter will look at the article more kindly. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:05, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
@No Swan So Fine and Ravenpuff: Having recently had a back-weighted hook sink like a lead balloon at DYK, my proposal is to deliberately front-load this one. I know it doesn't read as "smoothly" as an English sentence, but for DYK hooks, the choppiness can often work in your favour, and the evidence generally points to readers preferring front-weighted hooks because otherwise it's unclear where they are supposed to click. So the revised hook I am proposing is:
- ALT0a: ... that at Inchnabobart, Prince Harry taught the Queen Mother to say "booyakasha"? Cielquiparle (talk) 08:16, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer needed to check about the previously raised issues, and also that the revised hook meets the standard hook criteria. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:38, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Francisco Mascarenhas (Governor of Macau)
- ... that the first governor of Macau, Francisco Mascarenhas, burned another Portuguese nobleman at the stake in the only known instance of an auto-da-fé at sea?
- Source: Boxer, Fidalgos in the Far East (1948), p. 98: "On the homeward voyage, he 'ordered a gentleman of quality to be burnt to death, after finding him guilty of indulging in the unspeakable sin of sodomy'. This surely must be the only instance of an auto-da-fe at sea! Although the stake was the recognized penalty for this crime, the victim's social standing (he was a fidalgo named Francisco Pereira Pinto) got Dom Francisco into trouble, [...]"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tsuita
_dk (talk) 23:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: New, long enough, and no paraphrasing issues. Looks GTG. Makeandtoss (talk) 17:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
@Makeandtoss and Underbar dk: there is a discrepancy between the certainty of the hook and the source, which by stating "This surely must be the only instance..." does not make it certain. Is better sourcing available? See the last sentence of WP:DYKDEFINITE for why it is necessary. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:18, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Would it be fine if I added "according to historian C. R. Boxer?" to the hook? _dk (talk) 21:05, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Probably, although that may make excessively long.~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
Abseil rack
- ... that abseil racks have excellent heat dissipation?
- ALT1: ... that many cavers have used the same type of descender since 1969? Source: http://www.verticalmuseum.com/VerticalDevicesPage/RappelHistory.php
- Reviewed:
Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:26, 28 February 2025 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- The article was first created February 17th, but discounting a one-line stub that was made then it was pubished February 25th. I am not sure if this meets the newness requirement or not.
- Long enough:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
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There is one open WP:CITE tag in the article, but the article is otherwise sourcedAddressed - Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
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Neither hook seems to adequately be cited by the source(s) in question. For ALT0, there seems to be no indication that rappel racks have "excellent" heat dissipation, only that more recent designs have better dissipation than older models that have poor dissipation. For ALT1, I couldn't find this claim in the source. The closest seems to be this: "Before 1956, people suffered with body rappels. In the next decade, many new ideas appeared. Since 1966, there has been no real progress in rappelling."Sourcing issued addressed for ALT2.
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: The article is interesting, but requires more work before it is eligible for WP:DYK. After that, I am inclined to request a second opinion on whether or not the article is eligible to be submitted for DYK given the date the article was first created. --Sky Harbor (talk) 10:22, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
@Sky Harbor:I think that I have corrected the problems now. If possible I would like to change the hook to "some cavers prefer the rappel rack for it's excellent heat dissipation?" Kingsmasher678 (talk) 16:14, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, Kingsmasher678. I see the open WP:CITE tag has been addressed, which is great, but for your proposed hook (ALT2), where in the sources is this indicated so I can vet it? --Sky Harbor (talk) 23:22, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sky Harbor that would be in reference 4. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:12, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- I still don't see how the source supports that hook, Kingsmasher678. This is the same source that you used to back up ALT0, and I did not see anything in the source that indicated that rappel racks are preferred for excellent heat dissipation, but I may be reading the source incorrectly. I would appreciate it if you could point me to the specific instance in the source that points to your claim since I can't seem to find it; the source seems to point out how alternatives to rappel racks have poor heat dissipation, as opposed to rappel racks having "excellent" heat dissipation. --Sky Harbor (talk) 22:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, I have found another source for this, though I do feel that that is a fair extrapolation from the source provided. The new source should be in place now. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 04:54, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alternatively, change to "above average heat dissipation" which is certainly supported by the sources.Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:06, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- To answer Sky Harbor's question: the article was not eligible as a new article. It does not matter if the original article was created as a short stub: once the article is created, the seven-day count starts ticking. However, it could be accepted as a 5x expansion, as a 5x expansion began on February 25 and was nominated on the 28th. I have no opinion on the rest of the article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:16, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I don't believe that is correct. I had the article moved from userspace on the 25th. This is explicitly addressed inWP:DYKNEW. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 13:04, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- For some reason it wasn't showing up as such on DYKcheck for me. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:55, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think that's because of the usurpation, Narutolovehinata5. I don't know if the user page was created on the 17th or the 25th, but I'm inclined to believe that the page itself was created on the 17th, then Kingsmasher678 created a userspace page and had the two merged on the 25th. How is that situation addressed in the DYK guidelines?
- The page existed as a redirect, and I created a userspace page on the 17th. I had that page moved to mainspace on the 25th. I had to have a page mover do it so the page editing history from my userspace followed the page. So it was created, as the rules read, on the 25th. Regardless, I expanded 5x anyway, so it's a moot point. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 16:26, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think that's because of the usurpation, Narutolovehinata5. I don't know if the user page was created on the 17th or the 25th, but I'm inclined to believe that the page itself was created on the 17th, then Kingsmasher678 created a userspace page and had the two merged on the 25th. How is that situation addressed in the DYK guidelines?
- For some reason it wasn't showing up as such on DYKcheck for me. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:55, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5, I don't believe that is correct. I had the article moved from userspace on the 25th. This is explicitly addressed inWP:DYKNEW. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 13:04, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- To answer Sky Harbor's question: the article was not eligible as a new article. It does not matter if the original article was created as a short stub: once the article is created, the seven-day count starts ticking. However, it could be accepted as a 5x expansion, as a 5x expansion began on February 25 and was nominated on the 28th. I have no opinion on the rest of the article. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:16, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- I still don't see how the source supports that hook, Kingsmasher678. This is the same source that you used to back up ALT0, and I did not see anything in the source that indicated that rappel racks are preferred for excellent heat dissipation, but I may be reading the source incorrectly. I would appreciate it if you could point me to the specific instance in the source that points to your claim since I can't seem to find it; the source seems to point out how alternatives to rappel racks have poor heat dissipation, as opposed to rappel racks having "excellent" heat dissipation. --Sky Harbor (talk) 22:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sky Harbor that would be in reference 4. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:12, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- As for the review itself, I think the sourcing issue has been resolved so that has been marked accordingly, but the newness issue remains. I think a 5x expansion would work though if the newness guideline hasn't been met. --Sky Harbor (talk) 14:30, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- In cases of usurpation, the rules are silent, but I imagine it's still the original creation date that is considered the actual creation date regardless of any history merges, in which case 5x expansion is really the way to go here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:59, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Given that, and given that the sourcing issue has been resolved, I think this nomination is good to go as a 5x expansion. --Sky Harbor (talk) 01:13, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Only reference 3 and 5 aren't self-published. Please check for that because it wastes time otherwise. SL93 (talk) 09:25, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- While they are self-published, the vertical museum in paticular is maintained by Dr. Gary Storrik, who has written extensively for the NSS news. He is likely the best informed person in the world when it comes to the history of Single rope technique and its general development. He was also given a certificate of merit by the NSS for this work. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 16:11, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- In cases of usurpation, the rules are silent, but I imagine it's still the original creation date that is considered the actual creation date regardless of any history merges, in which case 5x expansion is really the way to go here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:59, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- As for the review itself, I think the sourcing issue has been resolved so that has been marked accordingly, but the newness issue remains. I think a 5x expansion would work though if the newness guideline hasn't been met. --Sky Harbor (talk) 14:30, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on February 28
[edit]Jimena Sánchez (queen)
- ... that King Sancho III of Navarre seized control of León in 1034 and arranged the marriage of his daughter Jimena to its king, Bermudo III?
- Source: Margarita Torres Sevilla and José Miguel Ortega del Río, Kings of the Grail: Tracing the Historica Journey of the Holy Grail from Jerusalem to Spain (Michael O'Mara Books, 2015), p. 100.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Inner Cambodia
- Comment: The source I offer is (a) accessible online, (b) in English and (c) written by experts in medieval Spanish royalty and nobility, so the highly questionable thesis of the book is not, I think, relevant to it as RS.
Srnec (talk) 02:23, 4 March 2025 (UTC).
At a glance everything looks sourced (will do a spotcheck soon enough) but is this hook really interesting? It boils down in my eyes to "a king took power and arranged a marriage" at first glance. I think either making it clear that the king was out of power and adding chronological context would be great, or having another fact from the article as hook - the one that stood out to me in the article was the length of the prose about her tomb - there's probably a good hook to be made in there somewhere. Departure– (talk) 20:59, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: The interesting part was supposed to be that the king arranged the marriage of his own daughter to the man he displaced as king. How about the following as an alternate? Srnec (talk) 20:06, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that by the 13th century, Spanish chroniclers knew neither the correct name nor parentage of Jimena Sánchez, the queen of León from 1035 to 1037?
- Source: Jaime de Salazar y Acha, "Una hija desconocida de Sancho el Mayor, reina de León", Príncipe de Viana, Anejo 8 (1988): 183 and 185: "casi olvidada por la documentación. El error de los cronistas posteriores y su lápida sepulcral en León, han producido el desconocimiento de su auténtica filiación. . . Los cronistas del siglo XIII ... aseveran ... [lo] que es a todas luces erróneo a la vista de la documentación, en cuanto al nombre de la reina ... y los historiadores posteriores, tranquilizados por esta coincidencia, no han vuelto a poner en cuestión la filiación de nuestro personaje."
- ALT2: ... that only a fragment survives of the tomb in the Basilica of San Isidoro belonging to Queen Jimena Sánchez (1035–1037), which once had an effigy and two epitaphs?
- Comment: Could take out "in the Basilica of San Isidoro" and link tomb effigy and epitaph instead.
- @Srnec: I don't speak much Spanish, but Hook 2 (the one I'm looking at) comes out a bit incoherent when translated. From my understanding, it's something along the lines of "Early chroniclers were incorrect about Sanchez's name, but later historians have full confidence as to her parentage". Is this on the path of being right? It nearly verifies the hook, I just want to double check that's what I'm reading. Other than that it's ready to go. Departure– (talk) 13:53, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- I would put it differently. Later chroniclers were incorrect about her name and her father's name, but modern historians are certain about the former and confident about the latter. It was difficult to come up with a wording to express this. A possible rewording below. Srnec (talk) 17:46, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Srnec: I don't speak much Spanish, but Hook 2 (the one I'm looking at) comes out a bit incoherent when translated. From my understanding, it's something along the lines of "Early chroniclers were incorrect about Sanchez's name, but later historians have full confidence as to her parentage". Is this on the path of being right? It nearly verifies the hook, I just want to double check that's what I'm reading. Other than that it's ready to go. Departure– (talk) 13:53, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that both the name of the queen of León from 1035 to 1037 and the identity of her parents had been forgotten by the 13th century, although recorded in contemporary documents?
- Source: Salazar y Acha, p. 189. The document of 1062 refers to "Queen Jimena his [Ferdinand's] sister". The documents of Vermudo III cited in the article call his queen Jimena.
- @Srnec: I'd still go with ALT1. As long as there's an end-of-sentence citation, this is
good to go, as I have no other problems with the article (just change "by" to "in"). Departure– (talk) 17:12, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
Pulled per WT:DYK.--Launchballer 05:13, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: So what is the problem? Srnec (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Srnec: I'd still go with ALT1. As long as there's an end-of-sentence citation, this is
Articles created/expanded on March 2
[edit]Betsy Arakawa
... that Gene Hackman stayed with his wife for about a week after she died?Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c89ydyjewjlo- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/St. George Utah Temple
- Comment: Driveby nom. Much of this was written in dribs and drabs; apologies if I missed any substantial contributions.
Launchballer 17:24, 9 March 2025 (UTC).
- Hi Launchballer given something like this was in In the News recently (and was fairly controversial), do you have any other ideas for a hook about Arakawa? Tenpop421 (talk) 17:39, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, and I wouldn't have thought that was a problem. Articles are only disqualified if they appear as a boldlink and Arakawa was never boldlinked there.--Launchballer 18:14, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I wasn't talking about a disqualification, I just thought it might attract flack as gratuitous, as the ITN blurb did. BLP does apply to the recently dead, and to focus on the particularly unpleasant death of the pair seems unfair to this talented couple. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:23, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'd have to do some actual research into her.--Launchballer 18:55, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- There isn't much information on her. She was a private person and died a sudden natural death caused by illness, which is not a noteworthy fact, and Hackman subsequently died essentially from old age, being 95, i.e. from a heart condition, which is even less noteworthy, and the fact that they died seven days apart during which period he did not call anyone because he did not comprehend the situation due to his advanced Alzheimer's is also exactly what anyone* (* anyone who knows what Alzheimer's disease is and what it means to be 95 years old with advanced Alzheimers) would expect to happen under the circumstances. Therefore, the hook fails WP:DYKGRAT. It is not unusual or intriguing and it is gratuitous.—Alalch E. 22:04, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alalch E. Launchballer there's an ongoing AfD discussion about this article. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:43, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's hard to know for sure, but it doesn't look like the article will be deleted. @Launchballer: I'm not a fan of ALT0 based on what Alach E. wrote above. Can you offer another one? Up above, Alalch says Arakawa was a private person and her death isn't noteworthy, but I disagree with them on that point. Exposure to hantavirus is rare, but New Mexico has had the highest number of hantavirus cases recorded since 1993.[4] Further, our article on the effects of climate change on hantavirus suggests that climate change in New Mexico may be partly to blame. For me, the rarity of Arakawa's death due to hantavirus is notable and should form the basis of the new hook. Viriditas (talk) 20:42, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- MEDRS is well out of my comfort zone, but I can suggest ALT1: ... that Betsy Arakawa died of a rare disease passed from rodents? I can also suggest, per a tip-off at the AfD,
ALT2: ... that after Betsy Arakawa died, Snopes debunked a rumor involving the FBI discovering 701 bodies in a tunnel under her house?--Launchballer 13:37, 14 March 2025 (UTC)- I have removed the ALT2 claim from the article, consistent with the rationale in my edit summary.—Alalch E. 16:04, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Good edit. For those not familiar with what is happening, the QAnon disinformation effort mines science fiction for ideas and then adapts it to modern news stories to use as propaganda against so-called liberals. The "underground tunnels" idea began with Mole people in fiction. During the COVID-19 pandemic, pro-MAGA QAnon-related social media accounts (some homegrown, some connected to foreign nations) began to spread the idea that the pandemic was a cover story for saving the "mole children" in underground tunnels. As always, liberals and democrats were the antagonists in these tales. Gene Hackman was a famous supporter of the Democratic Party. It is not surprising to see the same QAnon conspiracy theories about underground tunnels being found under his house after his death. This is part of a larger disinformation campaign by the pro-Trump wing injecting an infodemic of false information into the media on a daily basis, or what they refer to as "flooding the zone". There are earlier antecedents to this kind of thing in the right wing literature focused on conspiracy theories in United States politics. While the more modern version is focused on the exploitation of children in underground tunnels, Mother Jones traces it back to 1980s conservatism and the Satanic panic.[5] It also resurfaced in the 1990s as part of the right wing underground bases conspiracy theory (see Dulce Base), which was traced back to old science fiction stories created by Richard Sharpe Shaver in the 1940s. Viriditas (talk) 00:46, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- I have removed the ALT2 claim from the article, consistent with the rationale in my edit summary.—Alalch E. 16:04, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- MEDRS is well out of my comfort zone, but I can suggest ALT1: ... that Betsy Arakawa died of a rare disease passed from rodents? I can also suggest, per a tip-off at the AfD,
- It's hard to know for sure, but it doesn't look like the article will be deleted. @Launchballer: I'm not a fan of ALT0 based on what Alach E. wrote above. Can you offer another one? Up above, Alalch says Arakawa was a private person and her death isn't noteworthy, but I disagree with them on that point. Exposure to hantavirus is rare, but New Mexico has had the highest number of hantavirus cases recorded since 1993.[4] Further, our article on the effects of climate change on hantavirus suggests that climate change in New Mexico may be partly to blame. For me, the rarity of Arakawa's death due to hantavirus is notable and should form the basis of the new hook. Viriditas (talk) 20:42, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alalch E. Launchballer there's an ongoing AfD discussion about this article. Tenpop421 (talk) 14:43, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- There isn't much information on her. She was a private person and died a sudden natural death caused by illness, which is not a noteworthy fact, and Hackman subsequently died essentially from old age, being 95, i.e. from a heart condition, which is even less noteworthy, and the fact that they died seven days apart during which period he did not call anyone because he did not comprehend the situation due to his advanced Alzheimer's is also exactly what anyone* (* anyone who knows what Alzheimer's disease is and what it means to be 95 years old with advanced Alzheimers) would expect to happen under the circumstances. Therefore, the hook fails WP:DYKGRAT. It is not unusual or intriguing and it is gratuitous.—Alalch E. 22:04, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'd have to do some actual research into her.--Launchballer 18:55, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I wasn't talking about a disqualification, I just thought it might attract flack as gratuitous, as the ITN blurb did. BLP does apply to the recently dead, and to focus on the particularly unpleasant death of the pair seems unfair to this talented couple. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:23, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, and I wouldn't have thought that was a problem. Articles are only disqualified if they appear as a boldlink and Arakawa was never boldlinked there.--Launchballer 18:14, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
This article was kept at AfD and this DYK nomination needs a complete review from the top. (Struck ALT2 per discussion above). Full credit will be awarded to the reviewer. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:00, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 00:46, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Approved at AFC seven days before nom and sized at 3060 B; ITN/R appearance doesn't disqualify. Everything is verified and RS; did minor edits for close paraphrasing. Unless there are objections, I had to add a ref from the Gene Hackman page to fix a V issue. Oh, and ALT0 is relatively too in poor taste I agree, so we're going with ALT1 per what Viriditas said. BTW ref 7 notes she was a Punahou School graduate, but consider this optional. ミラP@Miraclepine 02:10, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- Struck ALT0 so there is no confusion. Added Punahou School and other details from in-depth article in El País which refers to her as "Mrs. Hackman" throughout (the name she went by in real life). Cielquiparle (talk) 06:11, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Over the course of this DYK nomination, I have somehow become the #2 contributor to this article, but personally I am against running this article at DYK at this time. With nearly 700k pageviews to date, it has managed to generate enough readership on its own. Furthermore, despite the expansion and the fact that it has survived an AfD discussion, it seems to continue to provoke a negative response from readers who keep tagging it for deletion. I did not !vote in the AfD discussion as I was ambivalent initially; I now think the article does satisfy WP:GNG but that the article remains "unstable" and for that reason does not meet WP:DYKCOMPLETE. (Also, while memorialization of notable individuals is important, perhaps it's also OK to let people rest in peace.) (That said, I won't object if there's enough consensus to move forward with this DYK.) Cielquiparle (talk) 12:35, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
I share Cielquiparle's concerns. Adding a question mark because there doesn't seem to be consensus to promote at this time. Tenpop421 (talk) 13:42, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- The article is stable and technically passes the criteria; I can't agree that it isn't stable. However, "X died of a rare disease passed from rodents" goes against my moral sense as indelicate and ... irreverent. I just don't like it.—Alalch E. 16:53, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- The article should calm down in its own time. As for the hook, ALT3: ... that Betsy Arakawa studied with Barack Obama? or ALT4: ... that Betsy Arakawa's house was once featured in Architectural Digest?--Launchballer 11:31, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'd like to say that I support ALT3, but that statement is not explicitly made in the article. It is only said that she went to the same school, not "studied with Obama". She and Obama did attend the same school during partially overlapping periods, but this isn't stated explicitly in the source(s).No opinion on ALT4.—Alalch E. 15:16, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3a that Betsy Arakawa went to the same school as Barack Obama? Does that work better? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:29, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- For sure it is better than ALT3 but it is just another example of Betsy ostensibly deriving notability from a notable man who happens not to be Gene. (It's a Forrest Gump hook!) Still think we should just close this out rather than fan another round of AfD discussion. Lots of energy from a lot of people went into improving the article so far. Don't poke the bear. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:35, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe ALT4 would be a suitable compromise? At least that hook doesn't link Arakawa to another person and is actually about her. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:48, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- The AfD was a decisive keep. This isn't going anywhere.--Launchballer 13:54, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe ALT4 would be a suitable compromise? At least that hook doesn't link Arakawa to another person and is actually about her. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:48, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- For sure it is better than ALT3 but it is just another example of Betsy ostensibly deriving notability from a notable man who happens not to be Gene. (It's a Forrest Gump hook!) Still think we should just close this out rather than fan another round of AfD discussion. Lots of energy from a lot of people went into improving the article so far. Don't poke the bear. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:35, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3a that Betsy Arakawa went to the same school as Barack Obama? Does that work better? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:29, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'd like to say that I support ALT3, but that statement is not explicitly made in the article. It is only said that she went to the same school, not "studied with Obama". She and Obama did attend the same school during partially overlapping periods, but this isn't stated explicitly in the source(s).No opinion on ALT4.—Alalch E. 15:16, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- The article should calm down in its own time. As for the hook, ALT3: ... that Betsy Arakawa studied with Barack Obama? or ALT4: ... that Betsy Arakawa's house was once featured in Architectural Digest?--Launchballer 11:31, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Over the course of this DYK nomination, I have somehow become the #2 contributor to this article, but personally I am against running this article at DYK at this time. With nearly 700k pageviews to date, it has managed to generate enough readership on its own. Furthermore, despite the expansion and the fact that it has survived an AfD discussion, it seems to continue to provoke a negative response from readers who keep tagging it for deletion. I did not !vote in the AfD discussion as I was ambivalent initially; I now think the article does satisfy WP:GNG but that the article remains "unstable" and for that reason does not meet WP:DYKCOMPLETE. (Also, while memorialization of notable individuals is important, perhaps it's also OK to let people rest in peace.) (That said, I won't object if there's enough consensus to move forward with this DYK.) Cielquiparle (talk) 12:35, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421, Cielquiparle, and Alalch E.: Given that the AFD was closed as keep and thus is unlikely to be AFD'd again any time soon, can this be given another look? We do have an ALT4 if there's concern about running a hook about Arakawa being linked to someone else. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:06, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Articles get re-nominated for deletion all the time, some of them fairly quickly if there are people who don't agree with the result. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:28, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle: To make things clear, are you opposed to the article running due to notability concerns or the possibility of it being deleted in the future, or are you generally opposed to running the article regardless of any possible AFDs? I have to agree with Launchballer that, given how the AFD turned out, it's unlikely this will be nominated for deletion anytime soon (in practice it's very rare for articles kept at AFD with that kind of keep !voting to later be deleted at AFD, unless we're talking about the time before our notability guidelines got stricter). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Just had a good laugh looking at your AfD stats and wondering why you nominated "Pepsi", "OpenAI", "New York City", "TikTok", and "Déjà vu" for deletion. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:41, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Those were April Fools Day nominations. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:00, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Just had a good laugh looking at your AfD stats and wondering why you nominated "Pepsi", "OpenAI", "New York City", "TikTok", and "Déjà vu" for deletion. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:41, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle: To make things clear, are you opposed to the article running due to notability concerns or the possibility of it being deleted in the future, or are you generally opposed to running the article regardless of any possible AFDs? I have to agree with Launchballer that, given how the AFD turned out, it's unlikely this will be nominated for deletion anytime soon (in practice it's very rare for articles kept at AFD with that kind of keep !voting to later be deleted at AFD, unless we're talking about the time before our notability guidelines got stricter). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Articles get re-nominated for deletion all the time, some of them fairly quickly if there are people who don't agree with the result. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:28, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 7
[edit]Remember Monday
- ... that Elizabeth II once asked a future member of the "What the Hell Just Happened?" girlband Remember Monday (pictured) why she was barefoot?
- ALT1: ... that the "What the Hell Just Happened?" girlband Remember Monday (pictured) are set to become the first girlband to represent the BBC at the Eurovision Song Contest since 1999?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Raj Salwan
- Comment: I just expanded Remember Monday to get it over 1,500 characters; What the Hell Just Happened? is almost entirely a driveby nomination. It would be great if this could run on 17 May, which is the date the band are set to perform that song on the Eurovision Song Contest, which is more than six weeks away, so remind me to put in a request at WT:DYK. I'm also aiming to make Holly Hull (ALT0's "a future member") into a GA by then. (I rewrote it in early February after their participation was rumbled, with the expectation that the BBC would announce it properly fairly quickly. They didn't.)
Launchballer 19:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: a) Note - Remember Monday was subjected to sock edits. But I presume that user:Ponyo got them all, and am not aware that that would still be a problem for this DYK - people should let me know if I am incorrect on that.b) Because this nomination offers two bolded articles, a second qpq is required (one is required for each nominated article, and only one has been performed as of yet ). c) I prefer the initial hook. d) Earwig found violation to be unlikely and spotchecks did not yield concerns. e) The main hook does not have any ref at the sentence in the article in which the statement is made.
- Raj Salwan is a double nomination. I added a duplicate ref. Also, for what it's worth, I just put in a date request at WT:DYK#Date request and moved and GAN'd Holly-Anne Hull.--Launchballer 09:30, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you - can you point me to the rule that says that a qpq for a double nomination counts for two qpqs? Also, I see that there is now a ref for the barefoot statement, but can you let me know what the applicable text in the ref says? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:297A:9E33:47F1:40D7 (talk) 03:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- WP:QPQ says "Where a nomination offers more than one new or expanded article, an article-for-article quid pro quo (QPQ) is required for each nominated article." Both this and Salwan are two articles and one nomination. Also, the source says "Elizabeth II even joked with Hull, then 11, about her not having any shoes on, which was part of her costume.".--Launchballer 12:05, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks - as to the quote, that refers to what I had pointed to above, but what I was looking for was something indicating that a qpq of a dyk with two new or expanded articles counts as two qpqs. I can see a reasonable argument there, but no statement to that effect. If there isn't a statement that supports that, perhaps some editor more experienced than I am might give their opinion. user:schwede66 - do you have a view? Also - perhaps an easy fix to the hook -- the quote you helpfully supplied does not indicate that the queen asked her why she was barefoot. Just that she joked with her about it. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:CCE9:EA6F:E89F:1E6A (talk) 18:12, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies, the correct quote is in this source. I'll add it with the image.--Launchballer 19:58, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- That does support that hook. Thank you. I am still not sure what the answer is to my qpq question above. Do you have a supporting link? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:6D19:C85B:8EDA:E45A (talk) 05:35, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- I consider that the above quote supports my point. I am disinclined to post again at WT:DYK given my date request fell on deaf ears (though you are free to do so yourself), but I can tell you that I've had several recent joint QPQs fly on this basis (Ceechynaa, The Cock Destroyers, Anaïs Gallagher) - perhaps @Jolielover:, @Narutolovehinata5:, or @Crisco 1492: would like to opine.--Launchballer 12:18, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- That does support that hook. Thank you. I am still not sure what the answer is to my qpq question above. Do you have a supporting link? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:6D19:C85B:8EDA:E45A (talk) 05:35, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies, the correct quote is in this source. I'll add it with the image.--Launchballer 19:58, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks - as to the quote, that refers to what I had pointed to above, but what I was looking for was something indicating that a qpq of a dyk with two new or expanded articles counts as two qpqs. I can see a reasonable argument there, but no statement to that effect. If there isn't a statement that supports that, perhaps some editor more experienced than I am might give their opinion. user:schwede66 - do you have a view? Also - perhaps an easy fix to the hook -- the quote you helpfully supplied does not indicate that the queen asked her why she was barefoot. Just that she joked with her about it. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:CCE9:EA6F:E89F:1E6A (talk) 18:12, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- WP:QPQ says "Where a nomination offers more than one new or expanded article, an article-for-article quid pro quo (QPQ) is required for each nominated article." Both this and Salwan are two articles and one nomination. Also, the source says "Elizabeth II even joked with Hull, then 11, about her not having any shoes on, which was part of her costume.".--Launchballer 12:05, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you - can you point me to the rule that says that a qpq for a double nomination counts for two qpqs? Also, I see that there is now a ref for the barefoot statement, but can you let me know what the applicable text in the ref says? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:297A:9E33:47F1:40D7 (talk) 03:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I found an image in File:The Jennifer Hudson Show Garcelle Beauvais 1924.webm and have put in a request at the photography workshop.--Launchballer 13:04, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Good find. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:297A:9E33:47F1:40D7 (talk) 04:01, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- To answer the above question regarding QPQs: yes, QPQs are per article, not necessarily per nomination. So for example, if a hook has two bolded articles, that nomination will require two QPQs from the nominator. At the same time, if a reviewer reviews the nomination and thus both articles, they now have two QPQs, which they can use in two nominations (one for each bolded article). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:11, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
I got fed up of waiting for my photography request to go through, so I added the video and added the source while I was at it. I remain of the view that this should run on 17 May despite my ignored WT:DYK request (or at the very least, not until I've taken Holly-Anne Hull through a GA review circle, which I will do once I've finished with Talk:WTLV/GA1).--Launchballer 14:03, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Holly-Anne Hull is currently being reviewed. As Vivian Wilson was quickfailed and not actually reviewed, does its QPQ count as used?--Launchballer 11:44, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- The "rule" that claimed that quickfail reviews do not count as QPQs was removed recently per a WT:DYK discussion, so absent any evidence to the contrary, quickfails should count as a QPQ like any other full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies for not being clear. My Sobrevivendo no Inferno QPQ, which I used for Wilson, could I use it for Hull or not?--Launchballer 11:51, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Per WP:QPQ, QPQs can only be used for one nomination regardless of their outcome. So no: even if Wilson was quickfailed, the QPQ used for that cannot be re-used. You will need to provide a new QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:06, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Point taken; Hull is now a GA and my QPQ is Maharani (song).
- ALT2: ... that Elizabeth II once asked a future member of the "What the Hell Just Happened?" girlband Remember Monday (pictured) why she was barefoot? (This is no longer in Remember Monday as it technically violated WP:INDISCRIMINATE but is in Hull's article.)--Launchballer 14:59, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Per WP:QPQ, QPQs can only be used for one nomination regardless of their outcome. So no: even if Wilson was quickfailed, the QPQ used for that cannot be re-used. You will need to provide a new QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:06, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies for not being clear. My Sobrevivendo no Inferno QPQ, which I used for Wilson, could I use it for Hull or not?--Launchballer 11:51, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- The "rule" that claimed that quickfail reviews do not count as QPQs was removed recently per a WT:DYK discussion, so absent any evidence to the contrary, quickfails should count as a QPQ like any other full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Holly-Anne Hull is currently being reviewed. As Vivian Wilson was quickfailed and not actually reviewed, does its QPQ count as used?--Launchballer 11:44, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed for Hull's article.--Launchballer 19:50, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
James Nwoye Adichie
- ... that
James Nwoye Adichie was the first person to hold a doctor of philosophy degree in statistics in Nigeria?Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/
Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:02, 9 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: @SafariScribe: The article is new enough and long enough. No copyvio detected. QPQ done. The hook is interesting but I don't see in the source where it says he was the first person in Nigeria to have a PhD in statistics? The source says he was "the second person to obtain a PhD degree in Statistics from the University of California and the first Nigerian to do so." The source makes it sound like he was first Nigerian to get a PhD in statistics specifically from that college. Thoughts? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:04, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- IIRC "first to do X as a Y" hooks are generally frowned upon in the DYK community. Bremps... 15:55, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that James Nwoye Adichie was the first Nigerian to obtain a doctor of philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley?Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/- @WikiOriginal-9, I have fixed the hook. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:06, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- How about ... that Nigerian James Nwoye Adichie was the second person to obtain a doctor of philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley? A Nigerian being the second overall person to get a PhD in statistics from UC Berkeley seems more interesting, assuming the source is correct... (WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA) ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:11, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9, I have fixed the hook. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 08:06, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Nigerian James Nwoye Adichie was the second person to obtain a doctor of philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley? Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:21, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- WikiOriginal-9? done.Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- That looks good. I guess I'll assume good faith on that source. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:14, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- SafariScribe, WikiOriginal-9 Take a look at page 6 line 22 https://www.stat.rice.edu/~tsn4867/all_files/IMS_VOLUME/IMS%20VOLUME/IMS_template.pdf. Does it provide any context? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. That does cast some doubt on the claim above. Maybe we could do one of the below two hooks instead:
- SafariScribe, WikiOriginal-9 Take a look at page 6 line 22 https://www.stat.rice.edu/~tsn4867/all_files/IMS_VOLUME/IMS%20VOLUME/IMS_template.pdf. Does it provide any context? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- That looks good. I guess I'll assume good faith on that source. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:14, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- WikiOriginal-9? done.Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that in 1966, James Nwoye Adichie became the first Nigerian to obtain a doctor of philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley?
- ALT4: ... that Nigerian academic James Nwoye Adichie was kidnapped in 2015?
I know Bremps left that comment above about "first to do X as a Y" hooks but I still think it's kind of interesting. Others can disagree if they want. Also, were there anymore details on his kidnapping or no? The article doesn't explain why he was kidnapped. Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:34, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 9
[edit]Alex Garfin
- ... that five-year-old actor Alex Garfin had his hair and eyebrows dyed blonde to play a Russian spy-in-training?
- Source: "Alexander Garfin," TV Insider. "By five, he was playing a very young Russian spy in training in the Angelina Jolie movie "Salt" (2010) for which the five-year-old actor had his hair and eyebrows dyed blonde.'"
- Reviewed: Festungshaft
- Comment: Nominated on behalf of an IP editor, who usually also provides the QPQ, but they have forgotten this time. This is their reminder :-)
The history is a bit convoluted and to save you the bother trying to decipher this, here's what has happened: the article was created in draft space, didn't pass an AfC, but some editor moved it to mainspace anyway (28 Jul 2022), it was moved back into draft space within an hour, and eventually deleted (27 Dec 2024). Upon request, the bio was restored to draft space (14 Feb 2025), expanded by the IP, and accepted through AfC yesterday, when it was moved to mainspace.
Thariqziyad wrote a chunk of content back in April 2022, hence I shall include them as one of the authors.
Schwede66 22:41, 9 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Not only is the Filmography section completely unreferenced, there are two tags that need to be resolved. I don't know if it's an issue with my computer but this reference just shows the subject's name followed by Biography with no details. SL93 (talk) 23:55, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. As to the refs, I've added them to the tables .. good catch. All were previously in the text, but some had been deleted. As to the tv guide ref .. try googling tvguide.com alex garfin. As to the tags, an editor seems to have thought I was someone I wasn't - who was blocked. And templated and deleted material as a result of that mistaken belief. I expect that will sort out. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:B988:8BEF:5DBE:59F6 (talk) 02:57, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- I believe the editor above was dissatisfied with the fact that the TV Guide source did not present sufficient WP:SIGCOV of Garfin. About the deletions I've made, I only removed sourced content that were WP:COPYVIOs, which you should watch out for a little more. Also, you indeed are not blocked from Wikipedia, if you are who I think you are. Badbluebus (talk) 18:26, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- I meant that the source shows white space minus the title. It works under a Google search for some reason. SL93 (talk) 19:37, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- I believe the editor above was dissatisfied with the fact that the TV Guide source did not present sufficient WP:SIGCOV of Garfin. About the deletions I've made, I only removed sourced content that were WP:COPYVIOs, which you should watch out for a little more. Also, you indeed are not blocked from Wikipedia, if you are who I think you are. Badbluebus (talk) 18:26, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Toledo Progressive Party
- ... that the Toledo Progressive Party from southern Belize attended two sessions of the United Nations General Assembly 4th Committee, reportedly sponsored by the Guatemalan government?
Soman (talk) 16:03, 9 March 2025 (UTC).
Article is new enough, long enough, and cited to reliable sources throughout. No copyright violations detected. QPQ has been done. Hook fact is verifiable, but is dreadfully dull. Attending a United Nations session/event isn't particularly surprising or interesting. UN events around the world routinely attract a global audience of diplomats, political leaders, activists, educators, academics, and even on occasion celebrities. This is not unusual in any way, or surprising. It would be like saying scientist goes to science conference, and in this case is literally political party attends committee meeting (which is what politicians and political activists routinely do). We need a different and more interesting hook. Please ping me when a new hook is proposed.4meter4 (talk) 16:32, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think you're missing the bigger picture here. The 4th Committee is the UN Committee on decolonization, which oversaw many of the transfers from European colonial powers to independent states. Belize as of 1977-1978 was still a British colony, that was at stake was whether Belize would remain a colony, become an independent state or be annexed by Guatemala. The fact that the Guatemalan government sponsored a proxy group in southern Belize, to legitimize its territorial claims, is interesting. There could be other ways to phrase the hook, but this is the key factoid of relevance here. --Soman (talk) 10:27, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Soman Sorry about the delayed response. Please ping me when you respond so I know you have replied. In response to your thoughts, I take your point about context. However, the geopolitical context is not at all clear in the hook fact and isn't likely to become clear to a wider audience within a short hook format. If you have to explain the context to get why something is hooky (which you would in this case) than you have failed the WP:DYKINT criteria. This hook is only interesting if one has specialized knowledge about the British colonial empire's activities in South/Central America, the history of Belize and its relationship to Guatemala as well as knowledge about the UN's 4th Committee, and within the specific time period of international politics in 1977-1978. This is way too complicated for the general reader to interpret, and the average person (ie someone like myself) isn't going to connect those dots outside of the article where it can be contextualized. You've got to pick a hook that's interesting and understandable without someone being familiar with the topic area and its context. I'm not seeing how this idea is workable even with modifications, its way too complicated and requires too much background knowledge to be usable. Find something else, because this isn't going to work.4meter4 (talk) 21:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 "... that in the years leading up to the independence of Belize, the Guatemalan government sponsored a small party to legitimize its territorial claims?" --Soman (talk) 10:38, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Soman Sorry about the delayed response. Please ping me when you respond so I know you have replied. In response to your thoughts, I take your point about context. However, the geopolitical context is not at all clear in the hook fact and isn't likely to become clear to a wider audience within a short hook format. If you have to explain the context to get why something is hooky (which you would in this case) than you have failed the WP:DYKINT criteria. This hook is only interesting if one has specialized knowledge about the British colonial empire's activities in South/Central America, the history of Belize and its relationship to Guatemala as well as knowledge about the UN's 4th Committee, and within the specific time period of international politics in 1977-1978. This is way too complicated for the general reader to interpret, and the average person (ie someone like myself) isn't going to connect those dots outside of the article where it can be contextualized. You've got to pick a hook that's interesting and understandable without someone being familiar with the topic area and its context. I'm not seeing how this idea is workable even with modifications, its way too complicated and requires too much background knowledge to be usable. Find something else, because this isn't going to work.4meter4 (talk) 21:37, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 10
[edit]Sobrevivendo no Inferno
- ... that Sobrevivendo no Inferno by Racionais MC's, which critiques police violence and systemic racism in Brazil, was later included as required reading for a university vestibular exam?
- Source: Musical style: https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/ilustrada/2021/08/entenda-como-os-racionais-fizeram-de-sobrevivendo-no-inferno-um-marco-cultural.shtml "A separação de classes estar ligada com o racismo na sociedade brasileira, isso é bastante novo na música." -> [The separation of classes is linked to racism in Brazilian society, which is quite new in music.] Vestibular exam: https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/educacao/2018/05/racionais-mcs-vira-leitura-obrigatoria-para-vestibular-da-unicamp.shtml "Uma das mais importantes instituições de ensino do país, a Unicamp (Universidade Estadual de Campinas) incluiu entre as obras de leitura obrigatória para o vestibular 2020 o álbum Sobrevivendo no Inferno, clássico dos Racionais MC's. É a primeira vez que um disco de música é recomendado para a prova." -> [One of the most important educational institutions in the country, Unicamp (State University of Campinas) included among the mandatory reading works for the entrance exam 2020 the album Sobrevivendo no Inferno, a classic of Racional MC's. It is the first time a music album has been recommended for the exam.]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The album was a whole was included at this vestibular exam and not a specific track.
Cattos💭 18:05, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
@Cathodography: Long enough, new enough. Earwig is clean and I don't see any reason why this might deserve a maintenance template. Never heard the phrase 'vestibular exam' before; is there another way of putting it?--Launchballer 22:21, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: "Vestibular exam" is a common term in Brazil for university entrance exams, so I understand your concern. Maybe "university entrance exam" or "admissions exam" would work better? Cattos💭 23:14, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 12
[edit]Hebrew Free Loan Society of New York
- ... that since its founding in 1892, the Hebrew Free Loan Society of New York has made $380 million in interest-free loans, with a 99.9% repayment rate?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Java War
- Comment: Article is still at AfD, which has been withdrawn by the nominator, but is still open; this nom was submitted to start the process.
Alansohn (talk) 11:45, 18 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: not a review, but I notice that the hook is sourced to a medium blog, which in turn cites the HFLS itself? There are a few other cites to the HFLS for content that's not necessarily non-controversial. I'll leave it to the nominator and reviewer to work out whether that's fine or if it needs to be changed, but I thought I'd bring it up. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 23:39, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
I don't see how this hook is interesting to a broad audience. In addition, the hook as currently written even sounds promotional, as if it's promoting the subject like an advertisement. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:02, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Not the nom, but perhaps "...that the Hebrew Free Loan Society of New York was founded to "fight the age old prejudice that all Jews were usurers""? Rusalkii (talk) 21:56, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Maharani (song)
- ... that Alamat's 2023 single "Maharani" charted twice on Billboard Philippines' Hot 100 chart in July 2024, making them the first Pinoy pop boy band to enter the magazine's charts?
- Source: "On the Billboard Philippines Hot 100, dated July 27, 2024, the multicultural, multilingual P-pop boy group have made a re-entry with their fan-favorite track 'Maharani' taking the No. 95 spot. 'Maharani' first ranked on the same chart at No. 80 during the week of July 6 — the week of the chart’s debut — helping P-pop dominate its rankings alongside the likes of Maki and BINI. To date, Alamat are the only P-pop boy group that have managed to enter the premier music chart’s rankings." Source: https://billboardphilippines.com/market/chart-beat/alamat-re-enter-the-billboard-philippines-hot-100-with-maharani/
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Bloomagiliw (talk) 00:47, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
- I take.--Launchballer 14:16, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
@Bloomagiliw: Long enough, new enough. Earwig is clean and QPQ is unnecessary. I see no reason why this might warrant a maintenance template. The hook is cruising for a pruning per WP:DYKTRIM but the meat of it doesn't check out; the hook puts the claim in wikivoice while the article attributes.--Launchballer 14:48, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 15
[edit]Transgender health care misinformation
- ... that over 20 states in the United States have restricted gender-affirming care for transgender minors, with transgender health care misinformation being one factor behind such bans?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The DYK timed out as the article underwent a GAR - a GA3 and the GAR found keep so relisting with the alt discussed at Template:Did you know nominations/Transgender health care misinformation.
I also second Launchballer's idea that it be used for Transgender Day Of Visibility (March 31). Courtesy pings to @Starship.paint, Narutolovehinata5, SL93, and Launchballer:
Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 18:52, 16 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: @Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist: This is a great hook, and I find it interesting. A few initial concerns:
- The hook fact is sourced to a press release from the Endocrine Society, which means it is a self-published expert primary source.
- A close reading of the press release indicates that the exact wording is slightly different from the hook. It says: "Although the scientific landscape has not changed significantly, misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized. In the United States, 24 states have enacted laws or policies barring adolescents’ access to gender-affirming care, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. In seven states, the policies also include provisions that would prevent at least some adults over age 18 from accessing gender-affirming care."
- The hook fact should adhere as close as possible to the source. I wonder if you can find other secondary sources to support the current wording of the hook or if you can rewrite it for parity. Attribution might also be needed.
- I like the hook image, but the caption is too long, and the legend (key) is too small. I wonder if there is a way to convey this info in a brief caption
- More later. Viriditas (talk) 23:50, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you! My apologies for missing your reply, unsure why I never got the notification. Responding to your points
- 1)
which means it is a self-published expert primary source
- I think this characterization is innacurate. Self-published refers to things like Twitter and Medium, not statements from international medical organizations. Per WP:MEDORG/WP:MEDASSESS it's a good source and per WP:MEDDEFA primary source is one in which the authors directly participated in the research and documented their personal experiences
whileA secondary source summarizes one or more primary or secondary sources to provide an overview of current understanding of the topic, to make recommendations, or to combine results of several studies. Examples include ... medical guidelines or position statements published by major health organizations
so this is secondary. - 2) The wording was based on discussions with Starship.paint for the last DYK nom - I'm open to changing it but unsure how. The source later says
Transgender and gender-diverse teenagers, their parents, and physicians should be able to determine the appropriate course of treatment. Banning evidence-based medical care based on misinformation takes away the ability of parents and patients to make informed decisions.
The Endocrine Society's been consistent with saying these bans are based on misinfo, in 2023 sayingDue to widespread misinformation about medical care for transgender and gender-diverse teens, 18 states have passed laws or instituted policies banning gender-affirming care. ... Some policies are even restricting transgender and gender-diverse adults’ access to care. These policies do not reflect the research landscape.
[6] The reason the hook says trans healthcare misinfo is "one factor" is SP argued they were not taking the position these bans are always based on misinfo (I argued they were). I suggested citing the ES to say such bans are based on misinfo and another source to say how many bans exist currently, but SP said this would be SYNTH. Your call how to best reword this! - 3) Per 2 I'm down to change the wording and per 1 I don't think attribution is needed. Perhaps something like
U.S. states have banned gender-affirming care for minors based on transgender health care misinformation and over 20 states have implemented such bans
? - 4) Thanks, made it myself! Could the caption be
US state laws on trans healthcare access for youth with bans marked in shades of red and shield laws marked in blue
orUS state laws on trans healthcare access for youth - most restrictive (dark red) to most protected (dark blue)
?
- 1)
- Best, Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 19:09, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the thoughtful reply. The Endocrine Society has their clinical practice guidelines posted here and their position statements listed here. The source we are discussing is neither a clinical practice guideline nor a position statement, it is a press release. A press release is "considered a primary source, meaning they are original informants for information". WP:V, footnote 1: "Self-published material is characterized by the lack of independent reviewers (those without a conflict of interest) validating the reliability of the content. Further examples of self-published sources include press releases..." I should note that many position statements are often posted in a journal.[7][8][9][10] To be clear, I agree with the statement in the press release that says "misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized", and I acknowledge that a position statement or clinical practice guideline isn't likely to deal with it, however, this topic did come up during the COVID-19 pandemic and resulted in many peer-reviewed articles about misinformation and politicization. Likewise, Meredithe McNamara has studied this closely.[11][12] I'm guessing that ES is referring to the work of McNamara et al. but in the form of a press release, this is all a bit opaque. I should note that most of the MED source guidelines say to avoid press releases, so I'm a bit confused by this. I will pass this on to someone else as I generally avoid press releases for hooks, even if I agree with them, and I think the sourcing should be tightened up a bit. Given that McNamara et al. is so prolific, this seems like it should be easy to do. Viriditas (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: No problem! I don't think the ES was directly referring to McNamara et al but more so the wave of anti-trans laws. However, I did find a better source / hook if you want to consider that instead of dealing with the question of using a press release!
that due to transgender health care misinformation, over 20 states in the United States have banned gender-affirming care for transgender minors since 2021?
[13] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 23:57, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: No problem! I don't think the ES was directly referring to McNamara et al but more so the wave of anti-trans laws. However, I did find a better source / hook if you want to consider that instead of dealing with the question of using a press release!
- Thank you for the thoughtful reply. The Endocrine Society has their clinical practice guidelines posted here and their position statements listed here. The source we are discussing is neither a clinical practice guideline nor a position statement, it is a press release. A press release is "considered a primary source, meaning they are original informants for information". WP:V, footnote 1: "Self-published material is characterized by the lack of independent reviewers (those without a conflict of interest) validating the reliability of the content. Further examples of self-published sources include press releases..." I should note that many position statements are often posted in a journal.[7][8][9][10] To be clear, I agree with the statement in the press release that says "misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized", and I acknowledge that a position statement or clinical practice guideline isn't likely to deal with it, however, this topic did come up during the COVID-19 pandemic and resulted in many peer-reviewed articles about misinformation and politicization. Likewise, Meredithe McNamara has studied this closely.[11][12] I'm guessing that ES is referring to the work of McNamara et al. but in the form of a press release, this is all a bit opaque. I should note that most of the MED source guidelines say to avoid press releases, so I'm a bit confused by this. I will pass this on to someone else as I generally avoid press releases for hooks, even if I agree with them, and I think the sourcing should be tightened up a bit. Given that McNamara et al. is so prolific, this seems like it should be easy to do. Viriditas (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thank you! My apologies for missing your reply, unsure why I never got the notification. Responding to your points
New reviewer requested. Viriditas (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Seeing as I have a more in depth knowledge on this article, I will give it a DYK review.
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Overall: I do see the issues that the other reviewer mentioned. I can see where they are coming from but because this hook is not biomedical info it doesn't require as strict of sources. If I remember correctly, press releases can be used as RS If used cautiously. I think using a press release from a reliable society and the fact that is stating things that can be easily verified (as in the policy changes and that misinformation has played a role) makes it appropriate here. I do not think that the image is clear at 100px due to the legend. I would support this hook without the image. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 23:42, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @IntentionallyDense: I appreciate all the time you've devoted to this, but please read WP:DYKRR: "You're not allowed to approve your own hook or article, nor may you review an article if it's a recently listed good article that you either nominated or reviewed for GA (though you can still nominate it for DYK)." Since you passed Talk:Transgender health care misinformation/GA3, we need a new reviewer. Viriditas (talk) 00:05, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oops I didn't know this and had reviewed DYK hooks for article I reviewed in the past. Good to know this moving forward, thank you! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 00:41, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
New reviewer needed. Viriditas (talk) 00:05, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
About the image, could we proclaim "skill issue" and just crop the image to only a map and then make the caption "states with stricter bans are colored more red"? I'd prefer brevity, but we could also add "gender-affirming care" before "bans" and "and stronger shield laws more blue" to the end of that caption if needed. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:59, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 16
[edit]Barbeque Nation
- ... that an Indian restaurant chain has over 800 combinations of kulfi flavours, toppings, and sauces?
- Source: [14]
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- Comment: Previously nominated in 2012, which was rejected, and the article was eventually deleted due to its promotional tone (which is why there is a 2 in this page).
TNM101 (chat) 17:38, 18 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: This is a solid and well-sourced article, TNM101. It was created in 13 March and submitted for nomination on 18 March, within the 7-day period. The hook is interesting and backed by source. Earwig shows no copyvio. QPQ not required. I spotchecked sources 6 and 9. Source 9 is fine, but source 6 (the Sydney Morning Herald article) seems to be about a restaurant in Australia, while the article states that the chain only operates in India, the UAE, Malaysia, and Oman, so I am not sure if this source is referring to the same restaurant. —👑PRINCE of EREBOR📜 09:53, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oh right, that might be my mistake. I made this article in a bit of a hurry (not paid) so I think I just used the source without thinking. I'll fix that tomorrow TNM101 (chat) 18:07, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- @TNM101: Any updates? —👑PRINCE of EREBOR📜 04:11, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Sasradilaga rebellion
- ... that the Sasradilaga rebellion in 1827-1828 devastated the Javanese town of Rajekwesi, causing it to be rebuilt under the new name of Bojonegoro? Source: [15]; CTRL+F "Sosrodilogo".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Godfrey Hattenbach
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 04:03, 18 March 2025 (UTC).
- Review:
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- Adequate sourcing:
- RE Djamhari 2002: per WP:THESIS, theses are not always considered reliable. Can you replace that with another citation, or confirm its reliability? I don't think bojonegorokab.go.id is reliable. It has no citations and no named author.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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- See above RE bojonegorokab.go.id.
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Overall: RE plagiarism, I'm assuming good faith RE the Dutch and Indonesian texts. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:10, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Voorts: Related to the Saleh Djamhari 2002 source: the author was a lecturer of history at the University of Indonesia; and the source is his PhD dissertation. He later developed it into a reference book although I did not have access to it, hence using the thesis. Carey (2015) cites the source here and there especially as a source for the later phases of the war. On the Bojonegoro source - that's the municipal government's website. Anyways, looking it up some more; I found a Dutch-language journal talking about the name change, so used that instead. Juxlos (talk) 04:00, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Arrow-class oil tanker

- ... that during World War II, the name of an Arrow-class oil tanker, SS Japan Arrow, was changed by the American government to, "avoid any unfortunate association of ideas"?
- Source:
"In February 1942, after Pearl Harbor, Japan Arrow was renamed American Arrow, to avoid any unfortunate association of ideas."
https://www.aukevisser.nl/mobil/id636.htm
"..as Japan Arrow (later renamed American Arrow).." https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/c/chotauk.html
- Reviewed:
Created by PhoenixCaelestis (talk) and GGOTCC (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 11:39, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
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- This article leans very heavily on assorted articles from "Auke Visser's MOBIL Tankers & Tugs Site"
- Neutral:
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Nearest two citations are several sentences away, and neither seem to contain this quote. Also, the quote itself isn't in the article, though a close paraphrase is.
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Overall: Overall a well-done article, and the hook citation issue can presumably be fixed quickly, but I am seriously concerned about whether "Auke Visser's MOBIL Tankers & Tugs Site" is an WP:RS. A self-published source like would be acceptable if they were a subject matter expert, but I can't find any evidence of that. Rusalkii (talk) 00:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
@Rusalkii: Japan Arrow has an entry in the Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships [[16]] that states that it was renamed in February 1942, however it does not specify the reason. Due to the time period and the events, I do not think it is a stretch to say it was due to the fact that America was now at war with Japan. I'd be willing to rephrase the hook to remove the quote. Perhaps as, "that to avoid association with the enemy during World War II, the name of the Arrow-class oil tanker, SS Japan Arrow, was changed by the American government?" Just a thought for a possible reword. Thanks for taking the time to examine the DYK nomination! PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 19:42, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- @PhoenixCaelestis: The issue isn't with just the hook, it's how heavily the article in general relies on this source. Rusalkii (talk) 21:33, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
2024 Men's T20 World Cup
- ... that India became the first team to win the T20 World Cup undefeated throughout the tournament in 2024? Source: https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/cricket/news/india-history-first-ever-team-win-t20-cricket-world-cup-undefeated/f3fed7d806c1ff72a325c807
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Vestrian24Bio 04:26, 17 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Vestrian24Bio A QPQ is not needed. I see the hook in the lead, but that is unreferenced. It might be cited somewhere in the article, but I can't find it. SL93 (talk) 01:34, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 17
[edit]Computer Mah-jong Yakuman
- ... that Computer Mah-jong Yakuman was Nintendo's first handheld with multiplayer gaming via a link cable, an innovation that would later be integral to the success of the Game Boy? Source: http://blog.beforemario.com/2011/03/nintendo-computer-mah-jong-yakuman-1983.html
RickyCourtney (talk) 06:00, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
What an unexpected thing to learn about! New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Hook fact checks out in article and in source. I'm unsure of the source quality... Is Voskuil/Before Mario a subject matter expert? I'd like an answer on that before I promote, RickyCourtney. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 17:59, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: I’m glad you enjoyed it! Erik Voskuil is a subject matter expert cited by PC Magazine and IGN. The BeforeMario.com blog was the basis of the book Before Mario which was well reviewed and Voskuil continues to use the blog as an extension of that book. Hope that helps! -- RickyCourtney (talk) 05:19, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 19
[edit]Carroll E. Stansbury
- ... that after Carroll E. Stansbury served as the head of the Baltimore County Police Department for 20 years, his successor only served for a month?
- Source: Baltimore County Police, 1874–1999. Turner Publishing Company. 1999. p. 28. ISBN 978-1-56311-449-6. IA baltimorecountyp0000unse.
charlotte 👸♥ 01:48, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
Nice work, looks good. New enough, long enough. I don't have access to Baltimore County Police, 1874–1999 but will AGF you didn't plagiarize from it and that it supports the hook. QPQ is good.
- The main concern is hook interestingness. This isn't a fact about Stansbury, this is a fact about Some Other Guy, and it's not even directly tied to Stansbury (e.g. the article doesn't say Stansbury undermined Meyer and drove him out or the like). Temporary successors are very common. I would suggest that a hook on assigning officers to combat chicken theft, or him smoking a pipe called "Sherlock Holmes" to solve crimes (not in the article, but it's in the obituary), might be random-reader friendlier facts. Happy to draw up some suggested hooks if you'd like, or can wait on other hook suggestions. SnowFire (talk) 17:22, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 21
[edit]Rika Hayashi
- ... that voice actress Rika Hayashi would bring a golf club to the recording studio for the golf-themed anime Tonbo!? Source: GF 収録の最初の頃、ゴルフクラブを持ってきていましたよね。はやし...休憩時間とかに自分でクラブを触れるように、とりあえず1本だけ持ってこようと。 GD: At the beginning of the recording, you brought a golf club. Hayashi: ... I decided to bring just one club so I could touch it myself during breaks.
- ALT1: ... that before starring in the golf anime Tonbo!, Rika Hayashi rarely played golf despite visiting a driving range every week as a child? Source: 小学生のときに少しだけ打ちっぱなしに連れて行ってもらったことがあるんです。クラブをプレゼントしてもらってからは週に1、2回打ちっぱなしに行ったり、ちょっと段差があるところでボールを転がして球の動きを見たりしています(笑)。/When I was in elementary school, I was taken to a driving range for a little while. Since I was given a golf club as a gift, I go to the driving range once or twice a week, and I roll the ball on a little uneven surface to see how it moves (laughs). + [https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2024-04-24/voice-actors-rika-hayashi-and-hiroki-tochi-talk-about-their-new-golf-anime-tonbo/.210000 When I was in elementary school, I only swung a golf club a couple of times, but I hadn't played golf otherwise
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Abba Cohen
ミラP@Miraclepine 02:06, 28 March 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was moved into mainspace within the first 7 days of nomination. Article has more than 1,500 characters in prose. Article is properly sourced. Earwig picked up an unlikely copyright violation of 2.9%, as most of the article's sources are in Japanese. Any similarities picked up are titles of shows Hayashi was in. A QPQ is done. The hook is interesting and sourced. Currently, the article takes on a promotional tone as it talks in depth about how she did not know what Tonbo! was but later read to the latest chapter, which isn't something notable to list as part of career. In addition, her hobbies seem to be promotional and are not notable. lullabying (talk) 04:11, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying: Just noting that I have acknowledged the issue. I am currently busy on family vacation and can't immediately reach my laptop atm, so I can't reply until tomorrow at the least (and even then I’m not really sure when—afternoon or evening?), but I’ll try to address the issue at my best convenience. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:38, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying: And I'm back. Well, I'm pretty sure the "didn't know about Tonbo" part would fit in the work's production page, but yeah I've removed it and the other just to be safe. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:21, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Washington Monument (Philadelphia)
- ... that Philadelphia's Washington Monument (pictured) was unveiled at its dedication in 1897 by the president of the United States?
- ALT1: ... that Philadelphia's Washington Monument (pictured) was moved in 1926 from a park to a traffic circle? Source: By October 1926, the monument had been completely reassembled in the newly created Eakins Oval
- ALT2: ... that Philadelphia's Washington Monument (pictured) features an equestrian statue and fountains guarded by bear, bison, elk, and moose? Source: These fountains are guarded on either side by native animals as the Moose, Elk, Bison and Bear
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Geoffrey Cuming
Zeete (talk) 20:36, 25 March 2025 (UTC).
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- My favorite is the last one, but while I don't think it's so uninteresting to reject I don't find it that engaging. How do you feel about using something like "...that Philadelphia's Washington Monument (pictured) includes a man killing an alligator with a trident?" ? The alligator + trident immediately stood out to me while reading the article, though I'm not sure if "killing" is appropriate since you've got "having killed" and this may need to be rephrased. If you hate this hook or possible variants I'm willing to approve ALT2 as is or review some other ideas.
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Overall: Rusalkii (talk) 18:29, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Rusalkii: Thanks for your review. How about:
- ALT3: ... that the base of Philadelphia's Washington Monument (pictured) includes a man holding a trident, having killed an alligator? Source: holding in his hand a trident or harpoon, and a dead alligator shows that he too has been successful in the hunt.
- Thanks, Zeete (talk) 18:56, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Works for me. Will need another reviewer to approve the hook, since I suggested it. Rusalkii (talk) 19:17, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Rusalkii: Hook needs an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 05:54, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, Zeete (talk) 18:56, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 23
[edit]2023 Robinson–Sullivan tornado

- ... that a tornado in the Midwestern United States dissipated near Palestine?
- ALT1: ... that in the aftermath of the 2023 Robinson–Sullivan tornado (pictured), Sullivan, Indiana was "like a war zone"? Source: https://sullivancountyready.org/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The image would be used for the alternative hook.
7kk (talk) 18:47, 30 March 2025 (UTC).
I'm guessing you're new to DYK, but for the record, you should probably inform the creator / improving editor that got the article eligible for DYK - in this case, @EF5:. We could extend this a few hours past the 7-day limit for DYK, given the GA nomination on March 23, but neither of the hooks seem to me to pass WP:DYKINT - tornado damage is quite often compared to "like a war zone" - and I don't think having only two hooks, one referencing Palestine and another referencing destruction is the best taste. I'm nearly certain the original hook meant to say "formed near" instead of dissipated - Palestine is, yes, both a relatively common place name and a literal geographic place, but the tornado dissipated near Sullivan. Both sources are inadequate to my liking - the first was likely an April 1 hook and the ship has sailed on that, and the second is a primary source and should be attributed as such. I'll ask you to come up with some better hooks before I consider doing a full review. Departure– (talk) 17:41, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- As creator and GA improver, I’m fine with a DYK nom, but please give me time to suggest a better hook; I particularly don’t like the Palestine mention which just pokes fun at a town name. EF5 18:52, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
Tolarian Community College
- ... that the Magic: The Gathering YouTube channel Tolarian Community College has raised over $1.5 million dollars for the suicide prevention hotline Trans Lifeline?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Note: This is the total of all the years fundraisers, not just one year that this source covers. All fundraiser totals have a source in the article.
John Cummings (talk) 20:36, 28 March 2025 (UTC).
- Note: I'm unable to do the QPQ as I can't find any the review, it looks like the reviews have all been started on Template_talk:Did_you_know. Is there a simple way to see 'fresh' ones to review? Thanks John Cummings (talk) 20:43, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- " If the question is how to find nominations to review, you can go to Template_talk:Did_you_know#Current_nominations and scroll to the bottom, where the newest nominations are mostly not reviewed yet. Rusalkii (talk) 18:23, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks Rusalkii, I've now reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/St Peter's Cathedral, Likoma. John Cummings (talk) 09:45, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- " If the question is how to find nominations to review, you can go to Template_talk:Did_you_know#Current_nominations and scroll to the bottom, where the newest nominations are mostly not reviewed yet. Rusalkii (talk) 18:23, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
List of Byzantine churches in Amman

- ... that the city of Amman, called Philadelphia during late antiquity, contains several Byzantine churches in it (example pictured)?
Makeandtoss (talk) 12:01, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review but I don't see how the hook is interesting or the historical name is relevant. You can combine the two nominations and make a double hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Philadelphia (Amman). It has a possibility to be something quirky, playing on the double meaning of Philadelphia. Yeshivish613 (talk) 21:07, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- The hook is probably indeed not that interesting, so would go with ALT1: "... that some of the Byzantine churches in Philadelphia, modern-day Amman, were repurposed from earlier Roman temples?" Makeandtoss (talk) 09:18, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 24
[edit]List of Lehigh Valley IronPigs Opening Day starting pitchers
- ... that the IronPigs have not lost a opening day start since 2017?
- ALT1: ... that the IronPigs have not lost on opening day since 2019? Source: https://www.citizensvoice.com/2025/03/28/ironpigs-spoil-railriders-season-opener/
- Reviewed:
TBJ10RH (talk) 15:30, 31 March 2025 (UTC).
@TBJ10RH: I see that you've nominated multiple Opening Day-related articles for DYK. I will leave the message in this nom specifically since it's the oldest, but this also applies to the Strippers and RailRiders nominations. I think the biggest issue here is that the hooks may not meet WP:DYKINT. Not everyone, especially our non-American readers, may know what Minor League Baseball or Opening Day are, so the hooks already have a limited audience. I imagine many of our readers don't even know who the IronPigs, the Strippers, or the RailRiders are, nor that they are baseball teams. At DYK, we tend to write hooks that are intended to appeal even to readers who have little-to-no knowledge about a subject and its context. Given this, I would suggest you try proposing hooks that even someone who's unfamiliar with baseball would find interesting. I understand that you're still new to DYK, so if you have any concerns or questions, please don't hesitate to ask me or to leave a message at WT:DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Good morning, I appreciate your concerns and advice. For this one, here is another alternative hook perhaps:
"...that J.A. Happ has started Opening Day for both Minor League Baseball and Major League Baseball 10 years apart?"
List of Gwinnett Stripers Opening Day starting pitchers
- ... that Bryce Elder is the third Gwinnett Stripers pitcher to start Opening Day multiple times for the franchise?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I think the title is somewhat okay
TBJ10RH (talk) 15:19, 31 March 2025 (UTC).
Soumen Mitra
- ... that whilst acting as a police superintendent under the West Bengal Police, Soumen Mitra developed a reputation for starting welfare and development projects in areas where he was posted?
7kk (talk) 00:17, 31 March 2025 (UTC).
Reviewing... Flibirigit (talk) 18:40, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Overall: The article achieved GA status on 24 March, and nominated for DYK one week later. Length is adequate. Sourcing is good, but the infobox has a full birth date, whereas the citation in the prose in only for the year 1961. Please clarify. The article is neutral in tone, and no plagiarism was detected. The proposed hook is interesting, but could be said in fewer words. The corresponding prose in the article that supports the hook needs a citation directly at the end, as per WP:DYKHFC. No images are used in the article, and the QPQ requirement is complete. Overall, the article is well written and a welcome contribution to Wikipedia. Flibirigit (talk) 18:58, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed both. Sohom (talk) 20:15, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Known for his knack to spruce up buildings where he is posted, some of his colleagues recalled how Mitra had been pivotal in the renovation of the traffic building in Lalbazar, setting up the Calcutta police traffic museum and re-decorating parts of Bhabani Bhavan during his stint at the state CID.
Someone who knows Mitra from his younger days shared with Metro how he had turned a boat seized with a large quantity of illicit liquor into a barb wire shelter for birds during his first posting as the SDPO Barrackpore.
Another officer, who has done multiple assignments with Mitra, said his speciality has been his “human touch for the force and his eye for their welfare”.
As the superintendent of police in Murshidabad, Mitra has started several developmental and welfare projects —some for the constabulary and some for the development of backward pockets known for notorious activities.
“He started the Chandradip Mela in Hariharpara (one of the police station areas in Murshidabad that was infamous of violence and ganglord killings) as an annual developmental project that changed the entire area,” said a senior officer in the force.
- Nowhere in this source can I find the word "reputation", which is a subjective term. It appears he "was known" for development projects, but I cannot see where he was "known for" welfare projects. It is verified that he start several welfare projects, but I cannot see a reputation. One officer quoted as saying Mitra had an eye for welfare, but that does not mean he was "known for" it, rather it seems like one person's opinion. Please clarify. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 21:15, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Pinsir
- Reviewed:
7kk (talk) 19:26, 30 March 2025 (UTC).
@7kk: Nomination fails WP:DYKFICTION: Given the fact that this is just describing a design detail with no real world context, it cannot feasibly be stated as having any. The article has several viable hooks that can be used that tie to the real world (Such as the bits about how its concept relates to real world entomology, the bits from the Mainichi source, or even some of the developmental information on the species, among other parts of the article).
- Also, just a minor note: The plural of a Pokémon species is just the species name, so in this case, the plural of Pinsir would just be "Pinsir". Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 13:53, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Not a review or the nominator, but here to suggest a potential hook:
Carl Vincenti
- ... that a young Maasai man (pictured) looked straight at Carl Vincenti's camera?
- ALT1: ... that Carl Vincenti photographed a colonial classroom in German East Africa? Source: A photograph from a government school in 1903 depicts a German teacher and local pupils in a classroom
- ALT2: ... that Carl Vincenti helped photographing dinosaur bones? Source: Vennen, Mareike (2018), "Arbeitsbilder – Bilderarbeit. Die Herstellung und Zirkulation von Fotografien der Tendaguru-Expedition [Working pictures - picture work. The production and circulation of photographs from the Tendaguru expedition]", in Heumann, Ina; Stoecker, Holger; Tamborini, Marco; Vennen, Mareike (eds.), Dinosaurierfragmente: Zur Geschichte der Tendaguru-Expedition und ihrer Objekte, 1906-2018 (in German), Wallstein Verlag, p. 57
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sanahin Bridge
Munfarid1 (talk) 22:38, 29 March 2025 (UTC).
Wang Huning
- ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect behind Chinese Communist Party's political ideologies since the 1990s under paramount leaders Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping?
- ALT1: ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect behind Chinese Communist Party's political ideologies under paramount leaders Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping? Source: https://www.palladiummag.com/2021/10/11/the-triumph-and-terror-of-wang-huning/
- ALT2: ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect of Chinese Communist Party ideologies the Three Represents, the Scientific Outlook on Development and Xi Jinping Thought? Source: https://www.economist.com/china/2017/11/02/the-meaning-of-the-man-behind-chinas-ideology
- Reviewed:
The Account 2 (talk) 22:10, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment The first two are somewhat tangential by naming the paramount leaders. The main subject is Wang Huning and his ideologies. I find it interesting they are named and linked because I'd never heard of the ideologies before. -- GreenC 01:17, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Is the third one satisfactory? The Account 2 (talk) 11:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
Joint Operations Command (Japan)
- ... that the Joint Operations Command (Japan) was created based on lessons learned from the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami?
- ALT1: ... that the Joint Operations Command (Japan) was created based on recommendations from the Defense Buildup Plan (DBP) in 2022 to creating a joint headquarters? Source: https://www.mod.go.jp/j/policy/agenda/guideline/plan/pdf/program_en.pdf --> page 8
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Parakiore Recreation and Sport Centre
- Comment: For the 1st hook, I can't afford to expand some more due to character restrictions. Open to other hook suggestions.
Ominae (talk) 13:32, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
Downstate (play)
- ... that Ted Cruz accused the play Downstate of celebrating pedophilia? Source: "After the Washington Post critic Peter Marks posted a link on Twitter to his favorable review, conservatives, including Senator Ted Cruz, attacked him. They claimed that the play and by extension the review were sympathetic to pedophiles." The New York Times
- ALT1: ... that the theatre which premiered a play about sex offenders had to hire additional security for its run? Source: "So inflammatory are its themes that Steppenwolf, having received threats, had to hire additional security for the show’s run." The New York Times
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nawala Al-Mutawalli
- Comment: I think ALT0 is stronger, but including ALT1 in case others disagree. The expansion tag in the synopsis section is just since it's been a few months since I've seen it and I don't trust myself to remember the full plot, but it's "reasonably complete" for the DYK standard, and if you find it an issue we could reasonably just remove it.
Sdkb talk 06:03, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
I'm pretty certain that WP:PLOTCITE only applies to published works such as films and there's no indication this has made it out of the theatre, so the Synopsis and Characters need sourcing.--Launchballer 12:58, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Launchballer, thanks for taking a look! My understanding of WP:PLOTCITE is that it applies to all published works of fiction, and I would consider this a published work in that the script is available for purchase (ISBN: 978-1-63852-403-8). I haven't found a plot summary published online, so I wouldn't have anything to cite beyond the play itself (which is what PLOTCITE says doesn't need to be cited), and looking to precedents like Wicked_(musical)#Synopsis (a GA) I'm not seeing plots cited there either. For the character descriptions, though, because describing their personalities is a form of inference, I can see more of a need for citations, and they're available in the reviews so I've added them. I hope that helps address your note; please let me know if you need anything else to complete the review! Cheers, Sdkb talk 00:37, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't say I was doing a review, and wouldn't anyway while that tag was still deserved. (I have a firm policy of doing my QPQs oldest first.)--Launchballer 04:04, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- No worries (the use of the reviewer slash icon was what gave me the impression you were).
Per above, this is open for anyone who wants to take it up. Sdkb talk 05:27, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't say I was doing a review, and wouldn't anyway while that tag was still deserved. (I have a firm policy of doing my QPQs oldest first.)--Launchballer 04:04, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 25
[edit]United States government group chat leak
- ... that Trump's vice president, defense secretary, state secretary, intelligence director, and security advisor leaked military plans to a journalist after accidentally adding him to their group chat (pictured)?
- ALT1: ... that Trump's national security advisor, Michael Waltz, accidentally added a journalist to a group chat (pictured) in which he and other US national security leaders shared military attack plans?
- Reviewed: Thin mouse shrew
- Comment: I only named the top contributor as the author. The rest of the hard-working editors appear to have all contributed an equal amount, and it would not have been practical to name them all.
Surtsicna (talk) 08:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC).
- The addition of the journalist to the group still seems unexplained. Various theories have been expressed and Musk has been asked to make a technical investigation. So, the suggested hooks (orig and ALT1) are premature in stating a definitive explanation in Wikipedia's voice. We need more ALTs. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:47, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Could you be more specific, Andrew? The lead of the article unequivocally states that Goldberg was erroneously added by Waltz. Is that not an indisputable fact? What are the other 'theories'? Should the article mention them? Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a reliable source. The lead of the article does not provide a citation for its statement. WP:V is Wikipedia 101 and providing a clearly cited statement is a fundamental requirement per WP:DYKHOOK. For some theories, see Was Signal-gate a mistake, hack or knife in the back?. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:00, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- I am not citing Wikipedia as a source. The article cites its sources, obviously not in the lead. The 'analysis' you linked rests solely on the assumption that Waltz could not have been incompetent enough to do this, and that assumption is not shared by any significant portion of reliable sources. The 'theories' seem to be fringe. If you disagree and think they should be included in the article, I suggest starting a thread at the talk page. Surtsicna (talk) 21:31, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, the theories are not fringe; they all seem reasonably plausible and there's no solid evidence yet for any particular scenario. And pointing to an uncited portion of the lead is not the way that DYK works, "
The facts of the hook in the article should be cited no later than the end of the sentence in which they appear
". Andrew🐉(talk) 21:49, 31 March 2025 (UTC)- Plausibility is not what determines whether a theory is fringe or not. The fact of the hook is indeed cited at the end of the sentence in which it appears. Should the citation be repeated in the lead section? DYK does not say, and if that is the issue you have with the nomination, it is very easily fixed. Surtsicna (talk) 06:48, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- No, the theories are not fringe; they all seem reasonably plausible and there's no solid evidence yet for any particular scenario. And pointing to an uncited portion of the lead is not the way that DYK works, "
- I am not citing Wikipedia as a source. The article cites its sources, obviously not in the lead. The 'analysis' you linked rests solely on the assumption that Waltz could not have been incompetent enough to do this, and that assumption is not shared by any significant portion of reliable sources. The 'theories' seem to be fringe. If you disagree and think they should be included in the article, I suggest starting a thread at the talk page. Surtsicna (talk) 21:31, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a reliable source. The lead of the article does not provide a citation for its statement. WP:V is Wikipedia 101 and providing a clearly cited statement is a fundamental requirement per WP:DYKHOOK. For some theories, see Was Signal-gate a mistake, hack or knife in the back?. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:00, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Could you be more specific, Andrew? The lead of the article unequivocally states that Goldberg was erroneously added by Waltz. Is that not an indisputable fact? What are the other 'theories'? Should the article mention them? Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I feel like the answer in both these cases is, yes, I did know that. I feel like we ought to be able to find a hook that would actually be something most folks don't know. Valereee (talk) 13:57, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Most people in the US probably, but Wikipedia is written for a wider audience. Of course you may suggest alternative hooks. Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- This has been international news for a week now. I've read the article, nothing jumps out at me other than the fact Signal allows deletion, which is against record-keeping laws. Maybe we could build a hook around that? I dunno...that gets into negative about a BLP. Valereee (talk) 17:11, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Most people in the US probably, but Wikipedia is written for a wider audience. Of course you may suggest alternative hooks. Surtsicna (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Marguerite McDonald
- ... that Marguerite McDonald performed the world's first laser correction surgery on the normal eye of a living human patient?
- Source: CRST
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Inchnabobart
- Comment: Expansion began on March 20, 2025. Article is still being reviewed for medical accuracy by DYK's resident doctor.
Cielquiparle (talk) 22:38, 26 March 2025 (UTC).
Timoteo, "El Charro Negro"
- ... that mariachi musicians, like Timothy Pollard, the world's first musically-published African-American mariachi singer, come in all colours? Source: https://wearemitu.com/wearemitu/entertainment/meet-timoteo-el-charro-negro-a-nontraditional-mariachi-singer/
- ALT1: ... that Timothy Pollard is the world's first musically-published African-American mariachi singer? Source: https://wearemitu.com/wearemitu/entertainment/meet-timoteo-el-charro-negro-a-nontraditional-mariachi-singer/
- Nominator cpmment: I think this may be a good addition to highlight the beautiful diversity of music and it's cultivators, as well as recognize the interesting variable that community has in culture-building. Also, while for some reason the visual presentation states it is not a valid article name, it is a public and existant page, linked appropriately. It also does appear to follow the conventions described in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)
- Reviewed: This is a warts-and-all conversion of an abortive attempt at a nomination by the below author. (Consider installing User:SD0001/DYK-helper.)
Launchballer 20:58, 26 March 2025 (UTC).
- Nominator comment: I apologize, but I am unsure what this means/entails. Is there anything else that I need to do, or something I need to correct? –– Chat-qui-Aboie (talk) 19:54, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Chat-qui-Aboie: You don't have to do anything but wait for a reviewer to pick this up, though I recommend installing User:SD0001/DYK-helper (the instructions are there).--Launchballer 16:11, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- This is not a review, but I have concerns about both hooks. The first hook seems to be more about mariachi music than the subject himself. This is also a "first" hook, so the sourcing for the claim has to be exceptional to prevent challenges. Otherwise, it might be safer to go with a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:01, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Note to who reviews this: Although the page claims that the nominator is Launchballer, their role was just to convert an attempted nomination. The actual nominator is Chat-qui-Aboie, who does not have any prior nominations. As such, a QPQ is not required here. I may take a look at this within the next few days if no one else reviews this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:31, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 26
[edit]Symphony No. 2 (Brian)
- ... that at various times Havergal Brian both claimed and denied his Symphony No. 2 described German knight Götz von Berlichingen (pictured) as portrayed by Goethe's drama?
- Source: "the four movements are associated in the composer's mind with various aspects of the character of Götz. The first, his resolution; the second, his domestic piety and love of his children; the third, the smell of battle; and the fourth, his death".
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.60219/page/n145/mode/2up
"While denying that Symphony No. 2 had any detailed programme, Brian at first drew attention to the earliest of Goethe's dramas, Götz von Berlichingen (1771-73), as a primary inspiration."
"According to musicologist Malcolm MacDonald, Brian’s reasons for denying this connection and for wishing his work to be viewed as 'pure music' were based on 'his anxiety lest those works with a known inspiration in literature be vulnerable to facile misinterpretation from people who look no further in music than for a programme. Brian never wrote programme music in that sense'.
MacDonald, Malcolm (1974). The Symphonies of Havergal Brian: Symphonies 1-12. Vol. 1. London: Kahn and Averill. ISBN 9780900707285.- ALT1: ... that the third movement of Havergal Brian's Symphony No. 2 calls for 16 horns? Source: "horns: 6 in I and II, 16 in III, 8 in IV" https://www.havergalbrian.org/works/symphony-2.php
- ALT2: ... that Havergal Brian's Symphony No. 2 was inspired by a German knight (pictured) famous for the expression "lick my ass"? Source: "The Second Symphony also takes its inspiration, and arguably its context, from Goethe, this time Götz von Berlichingen." https://www.havergalbrian.org/articles/sym2_goetz1.php
- Reviewed:
NeoGaze (talk) 10:46, 26 March 2025 (UTC).
- @NeoGaze: Not reviewing but having an image of Brian diverts attention from the bolded article, which is no good per WP:DYKDIVERT. Yeshivish613 (talk) 23:57, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Yeshivish613: The image is used in the article, but I can see your point, so I substituted it with an engraving of the knight (also used in the article). It probably fits better with the first and third hooks. For the second hook no picture would be really necessary. NeoGaze (talk) 08:01, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
The Alchemist Code
- ... that a game about the seven deadly sins collaborated with The Seven Deadly Sins?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2024 (song)
- Comment: If ever can this be in WP:DYKAPRIL, if not then I'm fine with it. Also idk, how to rephase the hook, open for suggestion.
Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 09:29, 26 March 2025 (UTC).
- @Miminity: You should probably add this to WP:DYKAPRIL for consideration.--Launchballer 22:30, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Should I move this to WP:DYKAPRIL or should I just let it get approved here first and move it? Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 04:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'd move it there. Even if it isn't selected, it will at least get extra eyes on it.--Launchballer 08:19, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Honestly I don't see this as a good April Fools Day hook, though it could work as a quirky. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:25, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'd move it there. Even if it isn't selected, it will at least get extra eyes on it.--Launchballer 08:19, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Should I move this to WP:DYKAPRIL or should I just let it get approved here first and move it? Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 04:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 27
[edit]2025 U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reorganization, Administration for a Healthy America
- ... that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has announced a reorganization of U.S. federal health agencies he says will "make America healthy again" by creating a new Administration for a Healthy America and firing 20,000 workers?
- Source: "HHS Announces Transformation to Make America Healthy Again... The restructuring results in a total downsizing from 82,000 to 62,000 full-time employees... The restructuring plan will... includ[e] a new Administration for a Healthy America." [17]
- Reviewed: Façade (video game), Funding-by-lottery
Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 22:54, 30 March 2025 (UTC).
Maendeleo horseshoe bat
- ... that the name of the Maendeleo horseshoe bat refers to its discovery representing progress in understanding Tanzanian bats?
- Source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/301222262, "Etymology: From Swahili "maendeleo" for progress; a noun in apposition. Named in allusion to the increasing knowledge of the Tanzanian bat fauna."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Washington Monument (Philadelphia)
- Comment: Another obscure mammal species that we know very little about!
Rusalkii (talk) 03:48, 29 March 2025 (UTC).
- Starting Review.--Kevmin § 16:53, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 28
[edit]Pé de Fava
- ... that a French chef freaked out when he found out that a Brazilian restaurant owner turned off his freezer at night?
- Source: "Entenda de onde vem o meme do Jacquin furioso (não, não é do MasterChef!)". Claudia. 2019-12-22.
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- Reviewed:
Cassilvwikis (talk) 01:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC).
1963 Mississippi House of Representatives special election in Lauderdale County
- ... that a special election in February 1963 put the first Republican in four decades into the Mississippi Legislature?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First-ever DYK nomination.
LV ✉ ✎ 01:30, 3 April 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: Mistakenly listed creation date as March 28, 2025 in the nomination. Article was created at 22:25 UTC on March 27, 2025. LV ✉ ✎ 01:48, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
Tandon v. Newsom
- ... that the midnight shadow docket order in Tandon v. Newsom was called the most important religious free exercise decision in 30 years?
- Source: SCOTUSblog article ("Tandon steals Fulton's thunder: The most important free exercise decision since 1990")
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is a joint nomination from SilverLocust and myself. (He wrote ALT0, and I love it.) We both have fewer than 5 previous nominations, but I'm using my own "freebie".
HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:59, 30 March 2025 (UTC).
- The rest of the hook is sourced from Josh Blackman, The "Essential" Free Exercise Clause, 44 Harv. J.L. & Pub. Pol'y 637, 743 (2021) ("shortly before midnight eastern time", "shadow docket"). Oleske's phrase, "most important free exercise decision since 1990", is also quoted in Stephen I. Vladeck, The Most-Favored Right: COVID, the Supreme Court, and the (New) Free Exercise Clause, 15 N.Y.U. J.L. & Liberty 699, 734 (2022). – JensonSL (SilverLocust) 06:58, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
William Baxter (American politician)
- ... that William Baxter was the second person admitted to the bar of Orleans County, Vermont?
- Source: Page 46 of Baldwin, Frederick (1886). Biography of the Bar of Orleans County, Vermont. Vermont Watchman and State Journal Press.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Andrée Dumon
- Comment:
Jon698 (talk) 17:39, 29 March 2025 (UTC).
Funding-by-lottery
- ... that several research grants worldwide are now awarded randomly via funding-by-lottery?
- Source: The source text from the article reads "As of early 2025, about a dozen funders worldwide have implemented funding-by-lottery via partial lotteries in their funding calls.[11]" It is the last sentence of the introduction section, and reference [11] points to an academic article on the subject (https://doi.org/10.1093/reseval/rvae025), listing all known research funding organizations that use a lottery.Then, a later section of this Wikipedia article (#"Existing funding lotteries") lists all funders that use fudning-by-lottery, providing additional references for each of them.
- ALT1: ... that several research funding organizations are now running funding-by-lottery programs, leading to ongoing discussions about the benefits and risks of funding science by lottery?
- Source: This hook states the same fact as above, that some science today is funded via lotteries. In addition, it also states that there is a controversy around this.The controversy is summarized in the introduction section of this article, reading: "There is no scholarly consensus on the benefits and drawbacks of funding-by-lottery.[6][7][8] Proponents argue that it can help mitigate biases in funding allocation and minimize the high costs associated with grant writing and peer review.[2][5] Critics, however, express concerns that diminishing the role of peer review panels in funding decisions could lead to a decline in the quality of funded projects and undermine public trust in funders, in scientific peer review, and ultimately in science at large.[9][10]". All references that appear in this paragraph are to academic articles voicing the stated opinion. Arguments in favor and against funding-by-lottery are then fleshed out in full in a dedicated section of this Wikipedia article (#"Scholarly debate"), where all reported opinion statements are supported by one or multiple academic references.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: In academic circles the topic is quite hot. Over 2/3 of all peer-reviewed papers on the subject have been published in the last 5 years, and opinion pieces on the subject have appeared in top-tier academic journals such as Science, Nature, The Lancet, PNAS (see reference list within the article). It was a surprise to me when I learned that a Wikipedia article on this was only a stub, so I decided to do something about it.
- I am a new Wikipedia editor, and a more experienced editor, "Piotrus", was kind enough to lend a hand by giving me feedback as I was working on a draft of this article in my user namespace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pulcis/Funding-by-lottery). I reached out to Piotrus for help because he was the author of the article stub that I expanded, and I figured he might be willing to help me out fill in his stub.
- For context, I am an academic myself, and I do research on science funding -- hence my knowledge on the subject and my interest in improving this article. However, to be clear, I did not use this article to promote my own work, nor the work of colleagues/friends.
Pulcis (talk) 22:46, 28 March 2025 (UTC).
Good job on the article and an interesting topic. I have just a few items. A few of the paragraphs are missing citations. It's implied that full lotteries are not currently used, but it would be more clear to state this explicitly if true. I believe that it's grammatically correct for the term to be "funding by lottery" without hyphens, since in English this usage of hyphens is usually reserved for compound adjectives; it looks like both variations are used in sources, so unless hyphens are used overwhelmingly I'd prefer the grammatically standard spelling.
- I don't think that the original hook is precise enough, since all existing funding by lottery schemes are not entirely random but still include peer review. Neither hook is particularly interesting; generally hooks that focus on a more specific interesting fact rather than being a generic description are better. Other than these, it is new and long enough, QPQ is not needed, Earwig shows no copyvios, so it should be ready to go with these minor changes. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 20:02, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Antony-22, thank you for leaving a review and cleaning up the page. I implemented the suggested changes. In order to de-hyphenate "funding-by-lottery" I also moved the page to Funding by lottery. And while I can't think of a better hook, I remain of course open to any improvements.
Sri Jumahaliah Hanifa
- ... that Sri Jumahaliah Hanifa was the first woman to head the University of Indonesia law school? Source: Oppusunggu, Yu Un (1 January 2008). "In Memoriam Prof. Mr. Dr. Sudargo Gautama". Jurnal Hukum & Pembangunan.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Beringia (dog sled race)
- Comment: If possible, please include the image alongside the hook, I'm ok with waiting for a while until the image could be included!
Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 07:03, 28 March 2025 (UTC).
The article is new enough and long enough and adequately sourced. I did not find any close paraphrasing. All but one source is in Indonesian and offline so AGF. The picture is okay and properly licensed. However, while a QPQ has been provided, it is an incomplete review (it only checked for interestingness and length but not all of the criteria, whether explicitly or implicitly). The article does not mention her date of death, but apparently the obituary does give a date in 2008? My Indonesian is very basic and rusty, and the Google Translate translation is ambiguous: was the 2008 date her date of death, or when they learned the news of her death? Finally, I'm not really that big of a fan of the hook: is there nothing else about her that can be said? If there are no other options, we can probably go with it, but I just want to know if you have any other options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:44, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Whew! Thank you for the very extensive and thorough review. I think I have to adress some of your points: regarding the QPQ, I've checked all references given, the shortness of the hook, and there aren't much to comment about other aspects of the article other than its interestingness and length. Regarding the obituary, it wasn't her obituary; it was another law professor's obituary. In the second-to-last page of the obituary, there is this statement: Sebagai seorang Guru Besar, Prof. Gautama memiliki sejumlah asisten. Di antara mereka adalah almh. Ny. S. J. Hanifah Wiknjosastro, S.H., yang menjadi dekan wanita pertama di FHUI periode 1978-1984 (As a Professor, Prof. Gautama had a number of assistants. Among them was the late Mrs. S. J. Hanifah Wiknjosastro, S.H., who became the first female dean at FHUI for the period 1978-1984.) Lastly, regarding the hook, I don't think there's any other options, since the article's size barely passes the DYK threshold. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:07, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- For the QPQ review, please make the checks explicit in the nomination as a promoter or other editor could reject the QPQ as being insufficiently complete. I'm also not sure if the "- ?" thing in the lede is how we treat people with known dates of birth but no known dates of death, so I found that weird. If that's standard practice then I'll let it slide, and it's not really a DYK issue anyway. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:33, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 29
[edit]Targeting law firms and lawyers under the second Trump Administration
- ... that Paul Weiss committed to do $40 million of pro bono legal services in support of Trump administration goals to settle the Trump administration's executive action against the firm?
- Reviewed:
Remember (talk) 02:24, 31 March 2025 (UTC).
Eileen Quinn
- ... that the shooting of Eileen Quinn was referenced in the poetry of W. B. Yeats?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jon Haukeland
- Comment: A fact about history and poetry of Ireland
Moondragon21 (talk) 10:09, 30 March 2025 (UTC).
- Not doing a full reivew, but I don't see "essentially a drive-by shooting" in the source (and it isn't in the body (MOS:INTRO), though that isn't a DYK concern). Rusalkii (talk) 20:12, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
Current nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on March 30
[edit]Carole Gibbons
- ... that Carole Gibbons was considered "Scotland's greatest female painter" by John Bellany?
- Source: "Despite being described by the late John Bellany as 'Scotland’s greatest female painter'"[18]
- ALT1: ... that the Scottish painter Carole Gibbons had her first US exhibition in her eighties? Source: "Carole Gibbons (b. 1935 Glasgow, Scotland) ... Gibbons' first exhibition in the US opened at White Columns in 2024."[19], though her age was pointed out by [20] "This past year, however, has seen Gibbons – who is 88 – exhibit at White Columns in New York"
- ALT2: ... that cats are painted by Gibbons? Source: "Gibbons’s work has shifted ... to more quotidian themes: interiors, cats, still lifes."[21]
- Reviewed: [[]]
PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke) 09:12, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
If Looks Could Kill (Destroy Lonely album)
- ... that the Look Killa kills his victims with the music of Destroy Lonely?
- Source: Revolt
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First time doing a DYK idk if this is how this works.
Chchcheckit (talk) 11:42, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
Desert musk shrew
- ... that the two known populations of the desert musk shrew (distribution pictured) are found on opposite ends of Africa?
- Source: Mammals of Africa https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=AkvrDwAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP1&dq=Crocidura+smithii#v=onepage&q=Crocidura%20smithii&f=false, pg. 132, "Endemic to Africa. ... Recorded only from
lowland Ethiopia and Senegal, but not recorded from any locality
between these countries", and then for "opposite ends" you can see the attached image, though I can try to pull a source for it that isn't "look at the map" if this is insufficient. The hook source calls it a "widespread disjunct distribution" and includes a very similar map. (Not sure if it makes sense to run the map with the hook, but I've included it in case there's interest).- ALT1: ... that the first scientific description of the desert musk shrew mentioned its "curiously youthful" appearance? Source: https://ia800805.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/13/items/crossref-pre-1909-scholarly-works/10.1080%252F00222939308677516.zip&file=10.1080%252F00222939508680227.pdf, "In its general proportions it has a curious youthful appearance, although, as shown by its skull and feet, the specimen is fully adult"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/After London
Rusalkii (talk) 20:03, 31 March 2025 (UTC).
- Confirmed that the hooks used are backed up by the cited sources. Nominator expanded this article 5x from a four-sentence stub yesterday. Both hooks are interesting, but the first is preferred since it's something actually describing the animal. There are plenty of witticisms to be found in Oldfield Thomas' work but we don't need every one of them to be a DYK. QPQ confirmed. While everything here checks out, I don't want to approve this with the image, as while it's illustrative of the first hook it is not particularly great to look at. A quick look through the archives finds no uses of distribution maps for DYK images. Other DYKs that mention distribution ({{Did you know nominations/Beck's tree frog}}, {{Did you know nominations/Glutinoglossum heptaseptatum}}) do not include maps or have photos of the subject to better represent it. Reconrabbit 14:22, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Happy to run the first hook without the image, I wasn't sure about it either. I also prefer it to ALT1, I just like to give reviewers options if I can. Rusalkii (talk) 17:47, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on March 31
[edit]Reinaldo Herrera
- ... that Venezuelan-American socialite Reinaldo Herrera's extensive connections led to Vanity Fair employing him to work as a fixer?
- Source: The Last Party: Studio 54, Disco, and the Culture of the Night (p. 125)
- ALT1: ... that as a fixer for Vanity Fair, journalist Reinaldo Herrera "pulled the strings" to get access to the Reagans for a 1985 cover issue, whilst the magazine was facing potential closure? Source: Tina and Harry Come to America: Tina Brown, Harry Evans, and the Uses of Power (p. 144)
- Reviewed:
Happily888 (talk) 23:45, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
Katsumaro Akamatsu
- ... that Katsumaro Akamatsu, a founding member of the Japanese Communist Party, supported expelling communists from the Japanese Federation of Labour?
- Source: Page 45 of Large, Stephen (1983). "Buddhism and Political Renovation in Prewar Japan: The Case of Akamatsu Katsumaro". The Journal of Japanese Studies. 9 (1). University of California Press: 33–66. doi:10.2307/132260. JSTOR 132260.
Jon698 (talk) 16:26, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
Hamdan Taha
- ... that Hamdan Taha led excavations at Hisham's Palace, an early Islamic archaeological site in the West Bank?
- Source: Whitcomb, Donald; Taha, Hamdan (2013). "Khirbat al-Mafjar and Its Place in the Archaeological Heritage of Palestine". Journal of Eastern Mediterranean Archaeology and Heritage Studies. 1 (1): 54.: "Khirbat al-Mafjar ... is one of the most important cultural symbols of early Islamic archaeology in Palestine."
and
Whitcomb, Donald (2015), "Rotors above Mafjar, tesserae at our feet", News & Notes, vol. 227, The Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, p. 12: "My co-director [of excavations at Hisham's Palace] ... Hamdan Taha, had just retired"Richard Nevell (talk) 20:56, 3 April 2025 (UTC).
WMTV
- ... that a Wisconsin TV station claimed to have the only revolving stage east of California when it went on the air in 1953? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/115072477/wmtv-creates-new-landmark/
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 08:04, 3 April 2025 (UTC).
Tao Asian Bistro
- ... that Tao Asian Bistro was used by The New York Times to test new conversation boosting features in Apple's AirPods Pro?
- ALT1: ... that the Chicago location of Tao Asian Bistro and nightclub is inside of the former Chicago Historical Society building? Source: https://www.timeout.com/chicago/news/take-a-look-inside-tao-chicagos-ornate-river-north-nightclub-091418
- Reviewed:
InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 22:40, 2 April 2025 (UTC).
Abanti Sithi
- ... that Abanti Sithi was honored with the title "Shispriya" for her exceptional whistling skills, along with performing the cup song and creating unique musical instruments using plastic cups, foil paper, and metal coins?
- Reviewed:
BadhonCR (talk) 08:16, 2 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 1
[edit]Cory Booker's marathon speech
... that from March 31 to April 1, 2025, Democratic senator Cory Booker (pictured) delivered a 25-hour speech to protest the second presidency of Donald Trump and the operations of Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, becoming the longest recorded individual speech in United States Senate history?
- Source: Forbes The Independent
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Historical, unusual and curious
ArionStar (talk) 06:56, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
ArionStar, at 295 displayed characters, the hook is far beyond the 200-character maximum at DYK. You'll need to propose a much-shorter ALT hook; I've struck the original one. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:11, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Raid on Tybee Island
- ... that during the American Revolutionary War, Patriots in Georgia conducted a raid on Tybee Island to capture runaway slaves?
- Source: Ryan 2010, p. 143
JJonahJackalope (talk) 13:36, 2 April 2025 (UTC).
Laurence Sterne's correspondence with Elizabeth Draper

- ... that Laurence Sterne’s journal of love letters reverses the found manuscript trope by claiming that his real diary is fictional? Source: Cash p. 255: "More puzzling is his reversal of a literary tradition: instead of passing of a fictional diary as a real one, Sterne seemed to be passing off a real diary as fiction. Obviously, it was not a serious attempt at disguise"
- ALT1: ... that Laurence Sterne’s love letters to a married woman inspired two books of fake replies? Source: Oates p. 155, https://www.jstor.org/stable/41154354
- ALT2: ... that Laurence Sterne's love letters to a married woman inspired his last novel's depiction of sexual desire as a force for moral improvement? Source: Parnell xxxii-xxxiii, https://archive.org/details/sentimentaljourn0000ster_s2k5/page/n33/mode/2up
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gordon House (Silverton, Oregon)
~ L 🌸 (talk) 02:55, 2 April 2025 (UTC).
Abrego Garcia
- ... that Kilmer Armado Abrego-Garcia was deported to El Salvador in March 2025 due to an "administrative error" by the U.S. government?
- Reviewed:
Hobit (talk) 01:51, 2 April 2025 (UTC).
Rosal Column
- ... that during the Spanish Civil War, when the government fled the coming siege of Madrid, the Rosal Column detained several government ministers and accused them of cowardice?
- Source: Graham, Helen (2002). The Spanish Republic at War, 1936–1939. Cambridge University Press. p. 166. ISBN 0-521-45932-X. OCLC 464890766.
- ALT1: ... that when the Rosal Column was integrated into the Spanish Republican Army, many of its militiamen refused to accept promotions to officer ranks? Source: Fraser, Ronald (1979). Blood of Spain: The Experience of Civil War, 1936-1939. Penguin Books. pp. 338–339. ISBN 0-7139-1085-2.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Well-being
Grnrchst (talk) 14:21, 1 April 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on April 2
[edit]Hedonism
- ... that the hedonistic pursuit of pleasure may prevent pleasure?
- Source: Buscicchi, Lorenzo. "Paradox of Hedonism". Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Lead section. Retrieved 19 October 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the hedonistic maximization of pleasure may be your motivation for reading this question? Source: Tilley, John J. (2012). "Hedonism". In Chadwick, Ruth (ed.). Encyclopedia of Applied Ethics (PDF). Academic Press. § IV. Psychological Hedonism. ISBN 978-0-12-373932-2.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/William Jenkins Wilcox Jr.
Phlsph7 (talk) 08:37, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
List of Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders Opening Day starting pitchers
- ... that from 2001 to 2007, the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders would lose every opening day game start?
- Reviewed:
TBJ10RH (talk) 01:42, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
Big Four (cycling)
- ... that journalists have described cycling's Big Four riders as having a "lockdown" on winning the sport's biggest races?
- Source: https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-racing/breaking-the-big-4-can-any-other-rider-win-a-2025-grand-tour/ ("If you’re getting tired of the “Big 4” lockdown on cycling’s grand tours, don’t get your hopes up for a reprieve in 2025.")
- ALT1: ... that three of cycling's Big Four, who dominated major stage races in the 2020s, debuted at the top level in 2019? Source: Source for Big Four dominance in stage races: https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-racing/breaking-the-big-4-can-any-other-rider-win-a-2025-grand-tour/ Sources for three members (Pogačar, Vingegaard, Evenepoel) debuting at WorldTour level in 2019: https://web.archive.org/web/20250307190503/https://www.cyclingnews.com/riders/tadej-pogacar/ - https://web.archive.org/web/20250114135044/https://www.cyclingnews.com/riders/jonas-vingegaard/ - https://web.archive.org/web/20250208001101/https://www.cyclingnews.com/riders/remco-evenepoel/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: my first DYK nomination, please let me know if there's anything I need to fix!
Verylongandmemorable (talk) 18:34, 3 April 2025 (UTC).
1968 United States House of Representatives election in Delaware
- ... that in the 1968 United States House of Representatives election in Delaware William Roth defeated Harris McDowell again?
- ALT1: ... that in the 1968 United States House of Representatives election in Delaware Harris McDowell lost a third reelection campaign? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/image/162665664/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1995 São Tomé and Príncipe coup d'état
Olliefant (she/her) 19:00, 2 April 2025 (UTC).
Unfortunately, I don't see how either hook meets WP:DYKINT. It is not unusual for a person to lose multiple elections, even three. There have been, for example, cases of people losing four or more elections (just ask Jean-Marie Le Pen). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:50, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: would either of these work? They are all in the newspapers.com source but not in the article as I just found them. I do plan to add them shortly Olliefant (she/her) 03:24, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that after winning the 1968 United States House of Representatives election in Delaware William Roth revisited all his campaign locations to thank his supporters?
- ALT3: ... that after winning the 1968 United States House of Representatives election in Delaware William Roth went on a "thank you" campaign?
- ALT4: ... that after losing the 1968 United States House of Representatives election in Delaware Harris McDowell ended his political career?
Annis Lee Wister
- ... that Annis Lee Wister was the most well-known translator of German popular novels into English in the United States during the late 19th-century?
- Source: She was the most well known translator of German popular fiction in the United States at the time (source: Tatlock page 216)
- ALT1: ... that Annis Lee Wister translated into English all ten of the novels of E. Marlitt and an additional 32 German popular novels mostly written by women? Source: She translated all ten of the novels of E. Marlitt and an additional 32 popular German novels mostly written by women. (source: Tatlock pages 216 and 220)
- ALT2: ... that as a child, Annis Lee Wister translated Struwwelpeter from German to English? Source: As a child, she translated Struwwelpeter from German. (Source Tatlock page 218)
- Reviewed: Laurie Schipper
Dwkaminski (talk) 18:48, 2 April 2025 (UTC).
- Question not review @Dwkaminski: how do you calculate 5x expansion? I get 2,347 characters now, but 725 characters before you started work, so you want 3,625. See Wikipedia:Did you know/DYKcheck. Perhaps "With Frederic Henry Hedge, she published Metrical Translations and Poems (1888)." and "Among her translations are:" could be excluded, reducing the starting point to 617 and the target to 3,085. TSventon (talk) 19:29, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I followed the guidance on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Did_you_know/DYKcheck.
Counting prose characters without DYKcheck You'll probably make a mistake trying to count this way, but you'll be close. Use a free website, or an external software program that has a character-counting feature. For example, if you are using Microsoft Word, select the text from the article page (or, in the case of "Did you know" nominations, the DYK talk page) – not the edit page containing Wikitext – then copy and paste it into a blank document. Delete everything DYKcheck doesn't count: infoboxes, categories, references, lists, tables, block quotes, headers, images and captions, the "See also" section if any, Table of Contents, edit buttons, "Citation needed" and similar superscripted text, and reference link numbers like [6]. Click "Tools" ("Review" in Office 2007), then "Word Count", and note the "Characters (with spaces)" figure. I used the word count though and not character. Give it quick fail. Dwkaminski (talk) 20:02, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
sorry about that, I have tried manual calculations and prefer the tool, even if it can sometimes be fooled by poor formatting. TSventon (talk) 20:25, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
I'm sure @Dwkaminski: could be given a little longer to get this to 3625.--Launchballer 03:18, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- I made additional edits and the article now meets the 5x increase requirement. Thanks! Dwkaminski (talk) 14:57, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
Camellia (musician)
- ... that Camellia described himself as "the engine" of Exit Tunes for consistently producing 100 fast-paced songs per year?
Cattos💭 00:37, 2 April 2025 (UTC).
Not a review, but a new hook angle or rewording may be needed here as the hook as currently written may be confusing or uninteresting to those unfamiliar with Exit Tunes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:22, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm taking this review, but I agree with NLH5 here. AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 00:41, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- n
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- (see above)
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Vgmdb looks like a user-generated source. Earwig does not bring up hits. AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 03:49, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma: I've removed the Vgmdb source and replaced it with two other sources. WP:ABOUTSELF should apply. I agree the original hook could be clearer for general readers. Though I'm not very good at rehooking stuff, I suggest ALT0A: ... that Camellia described himself as "the engine" of the record label Exit Tunes, citing his consistent production of 100 fast-paced songs annually?
- If that still doesn't work, I propose a potential new hook ALT1: ... that Japanese electronic musician Camellia began producing music at the age of ten using his mother's computer, after a friend asked him to compose a theme song? [22] Cattos💭 12:42, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- I personally think ALT1 works, but NLH5 made a shorter version that would be more simple. Personally I feel that the theme song part isn't that unique or interesting, not too sure about how others feel about that fact. ALT1a:... that Japanese electronic musician Camellia began producing music at the age of ten using his mother's computer?
- Let me know what you think of that, thanks. AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 00:07, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- @AlphaBetaGamma: I'm personally fine with your shortened ALT1a hook. What is the result of this nomination? Cattos💭 05:18, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 3
[edit]Kinkaku-ji arson incident
- ... that before burning down a golden Buddhist temple, the arsonist secretly removed one nail, then reinserted it, then removed it again?
- Source: Utsumi, Takeshi (30 June 2020). 金閣を焼かなければならぬ 林養賢と三島由紀夫 (in Japanese). Kawade Shobō Shinsha.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Camellia (musician)
- Comment: 'QPQ is still in progress!!!!!'
As the citations were mostly ripped off the jawiki version, I cannot put the text where the information came from. Considering the article is GA in Jawiki (meaning it has been reviewed), I am assuming all citations are correct. Rusalkii provided me with a nice hook :)
AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 00:42, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
Rule of inference
- ... that using classical rules of inference, logicians can prove from any contradiction that the Earth is flat?
- Source: Shapiro, Stewart; Kouri Kissel, Teresa (2024). "Classical Logic". The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Metaphysics Research Lab, Stanford University. § 3. Deduction.
- ALT1: ... that rules of inference can be transformed into tautologies? Source:
- Gossett, Eric (2009). Discrete Mathematics with Proof. John Wiley & Sons. pp. 50–51. ISBN 978-0-470-45793-1.
- Carlson, Robert (2017). A Concrete Introduction to Real Analysis. CRC Press. p. 20. ISBN 978-1-4987-7815-2.
- Hintikka, Jaakko; Sandu, Gabriel (2006). "What Is Logic?". In Jacquette, Dale (ed.). Philosophy of Logic. North Holland. p. 16. ISBN 978-0-444-51541-4.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eleanor Island (Canada)
Phlsph7 (talk) 09:14, 4 April 2025 (UTC).
Peg O' My Heart (film)
- ... that a character from Peg O' My Heart complained about his insomnia with netizens on Threads?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that the main character of Peg O' My Heart was spotted sleeping on a train by netizens in Hong Kong? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that actors and singers Fala Chen, Cloud Wan, Denis Kwok, Tyson Yoshi, and Neo Yau interacted with a fictional character from Peg O' My Heart on Threads? Source: [3]
- ALT3: ... that Nick Cheung took to the streets to listen to people share their nightmares as part of the promotion for Peg O' My Heart? Source: [4]
- ALT4: ... that Peg O' My Heart was inspired by director Nick Cheung's own nightmares after witnessing a woman hanging herself in the past? Source: [5]
- ALT5: ... that Peg O' My Heart marks Fala Chen’s return to Hong Kong cinema after pursuing a career in Hollywood with Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings? Source: [6]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Busy Woman
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Overall: Citations 2, 4, 16, 18, and 30 randomly spot-checked for verification; no issues arose. All the hooks are mentioned and verified with the given sources in the article. Leaning towards ALT0 or ALT4. ALT0 might need "fictional" before character like ALT2 to avoid WP:DYKFICTION. I think ALT4 would be more eye-catching if the genre was mentioned, i.e. "... that the psychological thriller film Peg O' My Heart ..." That would require a sentence using citation 41 though. Yue🌙 07:03, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ 蕭采薇 (20 March 2025). "影帝落魄睡倒地鐵!張家輝跪求網友刪掉偷拍照 入戲深苦喊:放過我". ETtoday (in Chinese). Retrieved 31 March 2025.
張家輝為了宣傳《贖夢》不遺餘力,特地以「蔡辛強」為名開設Threads帳號與網友交流,頻繁發文、曬照、傳語音分享私密心情,包括「沒人明白,每天晚上做惡夢,睡不著覺有多難受」、「有沒有人懂一點,不會做惡夢的方法啊」、「又做惡夢了,這個惡夢還要搞我多久」
[Nick Cheung is going all out to promote Peg O' My Heart, creating a Threads account under the username "Choi San-keung" to interact with netizens. He frequently posts updates, shares photos, and sends voice messages expressing his private feelings, including, "No one understands how hard it is to have nightmares every night and not be able to sleep", and "Does anyone know a way to avoid having nightmares?" and "I had another nightmare; how long is this going to go on?"] - ^ 廖福生 (20 March 2025). "張家輝開設Threads!地鐵累到睡過頭跪求網刪偷拍照". United Daily News (in Chinese). Retrieved 31 March 2025.
為了宣傳最新作品,張家輝特別以片中角色「蔡辛強」為名開設Threads,正式成為「脆友」,甚至有民眾拍到張家輝以「蔡辛強」的裝扮搭地鐵、睡到終點站的照片,在全網瘋傳
[To promote his latest work, Nick Cheung opened a Threads account under the name of his character "Choi San-keung", officially becoming a "脆友" (a slang for Threads users in Taiwan). There are even photos circulating online of Nick Cheung dressed as "Choi San-keung" taking the MTR and sleeping until the last stop.] - ^ 鄺梓晴 (25 March 2025). "贖夢|張家輝用角色蔡辛強身份玩threads 陳法拉都玩埋一份與網民互動". U Lifestyle (in Chinese). Retrieved 31 March 2025.
除了網民的熱烈討論外,常在Threads上活躍的年輕藝人包括雲浩影Cloud、ERROR@193、Tyson Yoshi、游學修等人都有份摻一腳!193因早前倒車撞倒途人引熱議,他今次亦在蔡辛強發佈的「的士撞車照片」下留言自抽,指「強哥要休息多啲,以後小心啲揸車,千祈唔好好似我咁🙏🏻」;張家輝亦為Tyson Yoshi改了中文名「太神又屎」!在電影中飾演張家輝老婆的陳法拉都玩埋一份,今次電影宣傳非常成功!
[In addition to the enthusiastic discussions from netizens, young artists who are active on Threads, such as Cloud Wan, Denis Kwok@ERROR, Tyson Yoshi, and Neo Yau, are also getting involved! Kwok, who recently made headlines for accidentally hitting a pedestrian while reversing his car, commented under a photo of a taxi crash posted by Choi San-keung, jokingly advising, "Brother Keung needs to take more breaks and drive carefully, do not be like me 🙏🏻." Nick Cheung also referred Tyson Yoshi's Chinese name as "Too God-like and Shitty"! Fala Chen, who plays Nick Cheung's wife in the film, is in on the fun as well, making the film promotion very successful!] - ^ 莫匡堯 (21 March 2025). "贖夢︱張家輝親臨廟街擺檔聽粉絲惡夢 以蔡辛強招牌厭世表情合照". HK01 (in Chinese). Retrieved 31 March 2025.
為了進一步加強宣傳,張家輝還原角色蔡辛強的造型,到廟街舉行「蔡辛強脆友惡夢分享會」,並於蔡辛強的社交媒體上邀請脆友到場見面:「有個熟客好好人,借咗個廟街個檔口畀我,想約大家見面聽下你哋嘅惡夢……唔講九唔搭八嘢,嚟得要分享一個惡夢
[To further enhance the film's promotion, Nick Cheung recreated Choi San-keung's look and held a "Choi San-keung Nightmare Sharing Session" in Temple Street, inviting friends from social media to join him: "A regular customer was very kind and lent me a stall in Temple Street. I want to invite everyone to meet and share your nightmares... No random talk, just come to share a nightmare."] - ^ Hsia, Heidi (7 August 2024). "Nick Cheung shares nightmare that inspires new movie". Yahoo! News. Retrieved 31 March 2025.
Saying he had a bad dream for a whole week due to an incident that occurred when he was a cadet police officer in his teens, Nick shared, "One time, I heard the neighbour across the street yelling and kicking the door, and then walked away. I was a policeman at the time, very righteous and responsible, so I just walked over with an umbrella to see what was going on." "But when I walked over, I came across a very dark house, and when I went to the corridor, I saw a woman in a red shroud hanging at the door..."
- ^ 廖福生 (14 March 2025). "觀影說劇/張家輝「贖夢」鬼纏身 口吐昆蟲嚇陳法拉". World Journal (in Chinese). Retrieved 31 March 2025.
而這也是漫威電影「尚氣與十環傳奇」女星陳法拉回歸香港的全新力作。
[This also marks the return of actress Fala Chen to Hong Kong after her [Hollywood] career began with the Marvel film Shang-Chi and the Legends of the Ten Rings.]
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[edit]Johann Friedrich Riedel
- ... that during a five-month delay in his journey to proselytize in North Sulawesi, German-born missionary Johann Friedrich Riedel got married? Source: [23]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Almeda Lambert
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Juxlos (talk) 14:33, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
Kingdom of Bungku
- ... that Dutch East India Company officials considered the inhabitants of the Bungku Kingdom "the fiercest of all Malukan peoples"? Source: Velthoen, Esther Joy (2002). Contested Coastlines: Diasporas, Trade and Colonial Expansion in Eastern Sulawesi 1680-1905 (PDF) (PhD thesis). p. 3.: A Dutch source (footnote states Dutch East India Company) from 1749 relates that ‘the tribe of Tobungku is the fiercest of all Malukan peoples’, referring to Tobungku’s reputation as a ‘warring nation’.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/United Engineering Center
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 14:23, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
Murder of Patricia Jeschke
- ... that the murder of Patricia Jeschke resulted in the longest prison tenure for a wrongfully convicted American woman?
- Source: Rodriguez, Lisa (December 4, 2024). "Sandra Hemme, wrongfully imprisoned for 43 years, is finally — unconditionally — free". KCUR-FM. Archived from the original on December 6, 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/TBA
Jon698 (talk) 00:44, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
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[edit]Little House (EP)
- ... that Rachel Chinouriri has dreamed of having a little house with a partner since she was a child?
- Source: Stereogum
- Reviewed:
CatchMe (talk · contribs) 00:53, 6 April 2025 (UTC).
Jatin Chakraborty
- ... that in 1983 pop singer Usha Uthup sued the Revolutionary Socialist Party state Public Works Department minister Jatin Chakraborty for defamation, after he had labelled her shows as 'decadent'?
Soman (talk) 21:58, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
Joana da Paz
- ... that an elderly Brazilian woman helped arrest dozens of drug traffickers and corrupt police officers, from the window of her apartment?
- Source:"Morre Dona Vitória, nasce Joana da Paz: repórter revela identidade da idosa que documentou o tráfico de Copacabana". O Globo. 2023-02-24. Retrieved 2025-04-05.
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Cassilvwikis (talk) 19:04, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
Johann Gottlieb Schwarz
- ... that German-born missionary Johann Gottlieb Schwarz had a statue commissioned of him by later President of Indonesia Prabowo Subianto? Source: [24]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dennis Walker (criminal)
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Juxlos (talk) 15:37, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
Wen Chia-ling
- ... that Wen Chia-ling, despite her family's initial opposition to her becoming an archer, helped Taiwan's team achieve its best-ever finish at the 2000 Summer Olympics?
- Source:
- Wang, Li-chu 王麗珠 (1999-06-05). "人物故事 送給爸爸最後的禮物 父親賽前過世 溫嘉玲銜哀奮勵 入選國手紅了眼眶" [Personal Story: A Final Gift for Dad. Wen Chia-ling, Grieving the Loss of Her Father Before the Competition, Pushes Through and Makes the National Team, Eyes Red from Emotion]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). p. 14.
The article notes: "溫嘉玲是在新竹光復中學高一時接觸射箭,那時全家都反對,尤其是爸爸疼愛這個么女兒,希望她循傳統路線好好唸書就行了,溫嘉玲很有潛力,高二時就入選了美國邀請賽的青年代表隊。這時,家人也從反對轉而支持。"
From Google Translate: "Wen Chia-ling first came into contact with archery when she was a freshman at Hsinchu Kuangfu Junior High School. Her entire family was against it, especially her father, who loved his youngest daughter and hoped that she would just follow the traditional path and study hard. Wen Jialing had great potential and was selected for the youth team of the U.S. Invitational Tournament when she was a sophomore in high school. At this time, the family also changed from opposition to support."
- Wu, Yu-kuang 吳育光 (2000-09-21). "8強鎩羽 3箭客拆夥 讀書的讀書、結婚的結婚 3人懊惱沒留下完美句點" [Top 8 Knockout: Three Archers Part Ways After Three Arrows – Some Focus on Studies, Others on Marriage, All Regret Not Ending on a Perfect Note]. United Daily News (in Chinese). p. 26.
The article notes: "中華女子射箭隊今抗壓性不佳,在八強賽演出嚴重失常,以227比234敗給土耳其隊,又經與八強賽同級落敗的美國、大陸、義大利隊比較總分,中華隊只爭得第八名,成績雖未臻理想,但仍締造我國奧運史上女子射箭最佳紀錄。... 輸了八強團體賽,中華射箭奧運三朝元老劉碧瑜、林宜螢和溫嘉玲將拆夥各奔前程,這是她們合作的最後一場奧運。"
From Google Translate: "The Taiwanese women's archery team did not have good stress resistance today and performed seriously poorly in the quarterfinals, losing to the Turkish team 227 to 234. After comparing the total scores with the United States, China, and Italy teams that lost in the quarterfinals, the Chinese team only won the eighth place. Although the result was not ideal, it still created the best record for women's archery in the history of our country's Olympics. ... After losing the quarterfinals, three-time Chinese archery Olympic veterans Liu Biyu, Lin Yiying and Wen Chia-ling will split up and pursue their own careers. This is their last Olympic Games together."
Cunard (talk) 04:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC).
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